The Omnipresent, currently playing (music) thread...

[TechAdmin]

Guys, I have a 64-bit processor and as far as I can find out I can't run Adobe Flash to see all of your fine links [send a PM is you have a way of working around this, please!]

PM sent.

Seems we were able to solve the problem, here for others who have the same thingy not working:

In Vista, IE7 32 Bit is installed by default. Check the Program Files (x86) folder for Internet Explorer. It is there and you run the executable file to have a 32 Bit browser.

Some ppl reported that they could not get the IE7 to shortcut to 32-bit, her the solution if that is your case:

I was able to fix my issue by getting lucky. For whatever reason my IE7 was defaulting to the 64 bit version no matter how I accessed it, even when clikcing on the executable from the program files x86 folder (which was supposd to shortcut to the 32 bit version).

By accident I figured out that by clicking the tiny IE icon in the bottom left (next to the start icon) I was now opening up the 32 bit version of IE. Very strange, but I am happy for the time being.

If you forget what browser you're in you can always check under Help->About.and if it doesn't specifically say "64-bit Edition" then it's not.

Last, Flash doesn't necessarily work on 32 bit editions either unless UAC is turned off.

Another solution would be to run Linux, there Adobe has released the 64-bit flash player already last month.

In Alans case the click on the tiny icon at the bottom next to the start icon worked to install IE in 32-bit mode, so: SOLVED

Now he can enjoy this thread... 

Kind regards,
TechAdmin

[Koen]

Alan,

I bought cd's starting with New-Beat, HardBeat, EBM, Italo disco, New Wave etc...I have a collection of all kinds of music but I do prefer bands that are good in their class.

Even have cd's from Jean-Michel Jarre, which I saw live in 2008, Vangelis etc etc...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urd8tG0xvoM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5-yPUQXZqg

FRONT 242 Don't crash

Front 242 [Belgian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnmTtC7A_qc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=$1#errorVideo not found
A Split Second [Belgian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=$1#errorPrivate video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpwtaw20kfs# (Embedding disabled, limit reached)
The Neon Judgement [Belgian]

Man, this music is so addictive with some beers and the lights out

[Alan65]

In Vista, IE7 32 Bit is installed by default. Check the Program Files (x86) folder for Internet Explorer. It is there and you run the executable file to have a 32 Bit browser.

Some ppl reported that they could not get the IE7 to shortcut to 32-bit, her the solution if that is your case:

I was able to fix my issue by getting lucky. For whatever reason my IE7 was defaulting to the 64 bit version no matter how I accessed it, even when clikcing on the executable from the program files x86 folder (which was supposd to shortcut to the 32 bit version).

By accident I figured out that by clicking the tiny IE icon in the bottom left (next to the start icon) I was now opening up the 32 bit version of IE. Very strange, but I am happy for the time being.

If you forget what browser you're in you can always check under Help->About.and if it doesn't specifically say "64-bit Edition" then it's not.

Last, Flash doesn't necessarily work on 32 bit editions either unless UAC is turned off.

In Alans case the click on the tiny icon at the bottom next to the start icon worked to install IE in 32-bit mode, so: SOLVED

and to follow up:  we tried to dl Fire Fox in 32-bit mode (something which is supposedly used to 'fix' this Vista 64-bit processor problem), open IE in 32-bit mode via fiddling with the files, we dl'd Silver-something-or-other via Netflix (the US site for watching movies on-line) which some said worked and nothing worked until I simply opened IE with the icon on the bottom tool-bar.  the simplest solution to the most frustrating computer problem in some time.

thanks for the further links to vids, Koen.

[Heinrich505]

Koen,
  Very interesting set of music.  Rather an edgy Depeche Mode, those last two, Front 242 and Neon Judgment.  Heavy techo, which is pretty cool. 

  I kind of like Rammstein from time to time, and some Nine Inch Nails are always nice.

                             Heinrich505

[Koen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtD5nuaI0Go

Sisters of Mercy - Vision Thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiHSYu5iKv8

Sisters of Mercy - Black Planet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGtNeeLabJg

Sisters of Mercy - 1959 (one of my SoM favourites)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XozUZF3ml5w

Sisters of Mercy - Under the Gun (great song)

Sisters of Mercy are known for their fast songs but I prefer their slow songs. Very slow, very deep and very dark.

Website

Their drummer is called Doctor Avalanche, he's always been a computer....

you don't have to say you're sorry
to look on further down the line
into the sun
too close at heaven
love is fine
but you can't hold it like a ...

two worlds apart and two together
into that good night kiss away
one takes the hard
one the other
kiss a way

are you living for love?
are you living for love?
when the road gets too tough
is your love strong enough?

(are you living?)
(are you living for love?)

do you feel your head is full of thunder?
questions never end?
empty nights alone? no wonder
it all comes back again

are you living for love?
are you living for love?
I've been under the gun
I've lost and I've ...

(one, two, three, four ...)
forget the many steps to heaven
it never happened and it ain't so hard
happiness is a loaded weapon and a
short cut is better by far
explosive bolts, ten thousand volts
at a million miles an hour
abrasive wheels and molten metals
it's a semi-automatic, get in the car
corrosive heart and frozen heat
we're worlds apart where we could meet
where the street fold round and the motors start
and the idiot wields the power
where the chosen hold the highest card
on the field of honour where the ground is hard
so the highest hand is joking wild
and the house soon fold and no-one stand
I put my finger on and dialled
the tower, the moon, the gun, and
nine nine nine, singer down
cloudburst and all around
the first are last, the blessed get wired
the best is yet to come
I put my finger on and fired
heat-seeking, out of the sun
you can set the controls for the heart or the knees
and the meek'll inherit what they damn well please
get ahead, go figure, go ahead and pull the trigger
everything under the gun.

[FACman]

Kitaro - "Kojiki"

[Rattler]

Kitaro! Had completely forgotten about him, but his were some of my favorite songs for long and fast night rides on (German) motorways when I was younger...

KITARO Matsuri (Live) Kojiki: A Story in Concert

Rattler

[Rattler]

To expand on my music tastes:

Another thing that gets me going about music is when it is dancable...

Of cause, this is not the version that does it (the one with "War" and joining "I have a dream"... was still visible on New Years Eve, now it is gone from the net... but it persists in my vinyl collection), but the version with The Animals gives you the idea of the possibilities..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=$1#errorPrivate video

For Hendrix fans: In bad quality, but Hendrix´s last performance (with "War", Ronnie Scott's Club, London September 16, 1970)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5dxGuNghz4

More of my taste for dancing those days:

Cream Born Under A Bad Sign

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Etta James:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUgvVAFFzN8

More Cream:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZNelb9uxpQ

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Latters a bit later into the decade...

(above: Clapton, Allman Bros, Temptations, Etta James, Clapton, EWF, Whispers)

And what would we close the party with in those days? When *the* decisive moment came, when you got your last chance to get closer?   (unbelievable, actually, as we all looked like the guys in the public in the first vid -check the guy in the grey jacket and you get the idea -, but it worked, most of the times...   )  Always the same two songs, for 10 yrs...  

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And then, the next day, we would practice all this in detail, fiddling with the buttons and the wah-wah:

Clapton interview: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=93057 (Embedding disabled, limit reached)

Seemingly neverending days with the blokes in the practice basement...   (anybody, by chance, knows the interviewer?)

Enjoy,

Rattler

[Rattler]

Had some friends (all either ex or current) here tonight for dinner: 1 ARG, 2 ESP, 1 (wife of) GDR, 1 BRD, 1 UK and showed them the site and, of cause, this thread.

We were all enjoying it a lot, listened to almost all of the tunes, then the younger guys (youngest some 27) came up with some more modern tunes, here is what they listen to in the forces for PT today (only remember this one, but there were several more of the same style that they call "SoftPunk" in Spanish), I like it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr5OyWtBB3M

Pascú from Argentina (SGM) is probably one of the best non-english speakers that I have ever seen cover an English speaking singer in a tune (he did this and some others more to perfection, with English accent though he doesnt speak nor understand it), he will be a week longer around on holiday, so we decided to collectively hit one of the major Karaoke grounds here this week, ahould vids come up I will post them for sure, the bloke is a bomb.

Rattler

[Alan65]

Don't know if you know the whole pun of 'Go Franco Un-American' from that song.  Franco-American is a popular brand for canned food; I think of it as kid's food and used to love it as a kid.

[Rattler]

Interesting.

After a short confy with the blokes today we agreed we never got that one, for Spanish (and Spanish Speakers) Franco stands for something else and was understood by everybody present as such in the song, w/o a clue to the pun you mentioned: USA (EE.UU in spanish) had always gone great length (in the cold war probably thought he was a "natural" ally) to support El Generalissimo... They celebrated the 25 yrs of facisim here as if it had been their own triumph (at least so according to NO-DO, the propaganda news during the dictatorship).

Interestingly, up to today, the Spanish "Infanteria Naval" still has the same organization, equipment and even uniforms as the US Marines (and different from all the other forces). Traditions die hard... 

NOTE: These are all excerpts of one doumentary from ´75 about Franco, you will note the change in tone when the original ´60s voices and comments are displayed.

NO-DO: "USA hails 25 yrs of Peace In Spain" (and propagates Spanish Brandy, R.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHPu8U0JeCg

NO-DO: "The 6th Fleet is the garant of Spanish Freedom versus the Communist Threat", a piece grabbed along with the "5 years prolongation of the treaties for mutual defense of US and Spain". Check how at 1:35 the US Marine invites the "young future soldiers full of inspriation" to the Forrestal... Propaganda at its best...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_R2r9JCmF8

NO-DO: "Spain shoulder to shoulder supports the US war effort in Vietnam". Interesting the thingy the US embassador states when debarking in Madrid Barajas in this one of 1964 (1:12 ff): "With an ally like Spain, a nation deeply devoted to the tradition of holding up the humantiarian rights, the Free World has not to fear any upsets. Spain, I think, can be very helpful to the Viatnamese People in the fields of healt and  technology..."

In another aspect, check out the NO-Do hailed "collection of toys presents to the children of Kennedy" collected by all children in Spain... (1:33 ff)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWL-rfBJnqQ

Rattler

[stoffel]

Big favorite all times for me, great text.
The biggest nightmare for every soldier

http://www.musica.com/video.asp?video=2234

[Koen]

ONE
from different performers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JjQGt7WjK0

Apocalyptica

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqyW1XQrNhk

U2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7LBwxh-uVM

Faithless

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWwmIfy0GNE

Metallica

[Koen]

listening to 'Message in a box - The Complete Recordings - The Police'

4 cd's packed with EVERYTHING they released, a & b-sides, live etc...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw1MNBgLw0w

new video posted

[TechAdmin]

"We´re sorry, this video is not longer available"...

The big prob nowadays: YouTube is following a harsh regiment to (alleged or persumed) CR violations.

HINT: Check the date the vid was posted, and the date the tune dates to. If first is >6 month and latter >25 years you stand a good chance that people get a chance to see it...

TechAdmin

[Rattler]

Okies, now we have been listening to so much great music, interestingly mostly from the past, what is the difference to todays (mainly casted group´s) sounds?

Ok, I will explain or at least shade some light on it:

(ATTENTION; DISCLAIMER: BEFORE YOU PROECEED make sure you are in a friendly and caring environment, safely sitting on a device that can bear your weight plus the forces resulting from horror induced convulsions and have a rescue squad close to carry you out of the room if you should not be able to reach the volume button anymore: CAUTION: AUDIO TORTURE AHEAD!!! (not all, though, if you survive the first part, it gradually will be getting better, just hold on...  ). Scroll down at your own risk to proceed! I cannot and will not be held responsible to any damage the stuff you will see/hear after scrolling down does to any part of your body/mind/soul, and I will not respond to any demands, if you go on it is definitely at your own risk! I have warned you!)
























Pooooohpfst, this said, here goes and the calvary starts:

So, you like Britney Spears? Sure got some great songs, but: IT IS ALL STUDIO MAGIC, here what she sounds like if you only copy *her*mike:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhR1fvHidAw

Sorry, I forgot , this was Britney after all, we had it clear she was all a fake all along, right (remember her being a virgin before marriage!!!?)?

But, luckily, there are true singers, like, e.g. Enrique Iglesias! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifrCFD3QNZc

Conceded, this is YouTube, might have been a fake, and we dont have to worry... but...? The doubts are awakened... And there is more... (check for yourself, cannot stand it anymore).

OTOH, there once was one guy that also could not sing (and he could not!!! Yours truly is better at any Karaoke!  ), but not only was he open about it, he also made this a style, filled it with emotion and branded a whole generation, probably - and I am sure that was not his plan - relaying the message to the producer sharks that *anything goes* if marketed allright ad so starting the decay of music (hey!, it is now, this week, that - 50 yrs ago - "..the music died!"). But, then again, these were the late ´70s...):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIXg9KUiy00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeP220xx7Bs

Rattler

P.S.: Wondering about the "50 yrs ago the music died"? Actually, it was FEB 3, 1959, near Clear Lake, Iowa, when the start ended:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LZyvmG8sBA (Embedding disabled, limit reached)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_lGx3UPpMw (Embedding disabled, limit reached)

[Rattler]

listen to this one and tell me that this is NOT a superb song?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRJQLzc-bco

Great song indeed, just now listened to it as background to planning my St. Valentines attack, the right stuff for such an endeavour... 

Rattler

[Rattler]

listening to 'Message in a box - The Complete Recordings - The Police'

4 cd's packed with EVERYTHING they released, a & b-sides, live etc...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw1MNBgLw0w

new video posted

I love Sting/Police, they are my time. I might be wrong, but he comes over as one of the ppl that havent lost sense to success...

Here, one of the deepest impressions he made on me and others, the performance on S11 night - which for us was early morning S12, but who slept that night?

The lyrics (and why this performance made sense IMHO) http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/sting/fragile.html

...
Perhaps this final act was meant
To clinch a lifetime's argument
That nothing comes from violence and nothing ever could
For all those born beneath an angry star
Lest we forget how fragile we are
...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odgbgXSdOu4

[FACman]

The Chieftains - "Down the Old Plank Road"

The Nashville sessions, featuring the following artists...

John Hiatt, Bella Fleck, Jeff White, Tim O'Brien (a fav), Buddy & Julie Miller, Earl Scruggs, Vince Gill, Ricky Scaggs, Alison Krause, Lyle Lovett, Patty Griffin, The DelMcCoury Band, Martina McBride, Gillian Welch and David Rawlings.

[Rattler]

The Chieftains - "Down the Old Plank Road"

For me, The Chieftains inseparably go with the voice of Sinead O'Connor, like in such pieces, a true soldier´ssong methinks:

-snip-...The bravest fell, and the requiem bell
Rang mournfully and clear
For those who died that Easter-tide
In the springing of the year.
While the world did gaze with deep amaze
At those fearless men but few
Who bore the fight that freedom's light
Might shine through the foggy dew....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13MQFCfCYdQ

And now, to make you all loathe with envy, tonight will be to "Sa Taronja" (http://www.sataronja.net/), to a concert of "Orishirishi", a Mallorquin studio musician formation from our (250 people) village that plays along the same lines: Kinda soft Celtic, Reggae, Funk, Afro, Soul y Rock; furthermore, tonight Arthur Vaughn Richards "Island Monkey" will play his own songs alongside, this should rip their schedule a bit... (the vid has been shot in "Sa Taronja" some one year ago, at a concert - the friends bit at a house 2 km to my south - , so you can see what I am facing... )

Orishirishi:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5513014993916643913 (Embedding disabled, limit reached)

Island Monkey:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZM0EGBdHOw

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BB0XMVKS-7E/SYNC4XgjGGI/AAAAAAAACrY/SInQ15H4vGc/s1600-h/Foto+Orishirishi.jpg,  if you cannot se the pic, view attached.

The bass (and boss), Jan Kobrzinowski (farthest right in the pic, the guy with the orange baseball cap in the vid), is a fellow German and, as well as his ex Anke (the girl on the left of the pic and percussions in the vid) is a good friend of mine and will have to face his 50th birthday tonight at 2400Local  ...

I expect some kind of party with a lot of on-stage jamming will result as there will be present the cream of our village musicians (we are sort of a refuge for great musicians once they retire), including my direct neighbour Molly Duncan, tenor sax from "Dire Straits", "Average White Band" and "Eurythmics"... http://www.mollyduncan.com/molly_duncan.htm ... I am sure you will recall his sax:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfAJLGFWxYo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w61hsSUXj4

... and many more...

Rattler