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Title: Oh...that guy...I know these pictures...but who is he?
Post by: Koen on 21 November 2008, 13:00:18
What do we know?

Waffen-SS
Browning 9mm High-Power
knife
Ardennes-Belgium
Wacht am Rhein

Questions?

his name?
division/unit?
vehicle on picture 1 & 3 the same?

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Title: Re: Oh...that guy...I know these pictures...but who is he?
Post by: Koen on 21 November 2008, 17:25:11
rumours say that he belonged to KG Knisspel  ???

hmmmm....latest info says KG Hansen  ???


Title: Re: Oh...that guy...I know these pictures...but who is he?
Post by: Alan65 on 14 December 2008, 05:41:50
Koen, where did you get these images?  They're talking about the middle on over at GameSquad (http://forums.gamesquad.com/showthread.php?t=80879  post #5 )and I see that it is in the LIFE magazine photo archive you've linked elsewhere.  What about the other two pictures?  Where are they from?


Title: Re: Oh...that guy...I know these pictures...but who is he?
Post by: Koen on 14 December 2008, 11:37:53
well, by spending numerous hours collecting pictures on the net and finally realising that you have 3 pics of the same guy


Title: Re: Oh...that guy...I know these pictures...but who is he?
Post by: Bootie on 14 December 2008, 14:36:46
Is that an M8 in the background of the first picture?


Title: Re: Oh...that guy...I know these pictures...but who is he?
Post by: FACman on 14 December 2008, 16:29:35
I do not know the answer to your sideshield question. I  suspect that since they randomly appear, it was either a post production addition, or an easily damaged item, that was in short supply. My money is on the latter.

my 2c...

J


Title: Re: Oh...that guy...I know these pictures...but who is he?
Post by: Mad Russian on 14 December 2008, 16:35:48
That is absolutely an M8 Greyhound. Nothing else looks like that vehicle.

Combat damage is easily attributable to the condition of the vehicle.

Good Hunting.

MR


Title: Re: Oh...that guy...I know these pictures...but who is he?
Post by: MontyB on 22 December 2011, 07:55:55
Well you know me, better late than never but this thread has interested me...

So here is a 4th Photo...

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n158/greg4656/WW2/fourthphoto.png)

Here is the information with the photo (I can not verify it though):
Unit: 2nd Company,I./SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt 1,  Kampfgruppe Hansen.
Name: Walter Armbrusch. ****This has been questioned****
Rank: SS-Sch├╝tze as an MG-42 gunner.
Vehicle: M8 Greyhound of the 14th Cavalry Group, 18th Recon. Troop C, 1st Platoon
December 18, 1944, very early in the morning, the American "14th Cavalry Group" had gotten in an ambush of the German "Kampfgruppe Hansen" on the road between Poteau and Recht.

Now here is the kicker, the photo's that have become famous are apparently ones from propaganda films made shortly after the event.

http://www.museum-poteau44.be/ (http://www.museum-poteau44.be/)


Title: Re: Oh...that guy...I know these pictures...but who is he?
Post by: stoffel on 22 December 2011, 16:37:30
Cool Monty, thx for sharing!!!!
I will have a look there once I am back in the Ardennes!


Title: Re: Oh...that guy...I know these pictures...but who is he?
Post by: MontyB on 22 December 2011, 18:56:17
Basically I think we are looking at two separate events and the pictures that have become famous are from the second event.

Event 1: 14th Cavalry Group, 18th Recon. Troop C, 1st Platoon are ambushed during the battle of the Bulge but no photo's exist.
Event 2: The ambushed vehicles are used by a film crew to recreate the event and those photos become famous.

In a lot of ways a staged event much in the same way the Okinawa flag planting was.


Title: Re: Oh...that guy...I know these pictures...but who is he?
Post by: stoffel on 22 December 2011, 21:08:49
If you look close at the pictures you see no bodies or any other glimp of the American soldiers, so yes very clear evidence it was set up :)
On the monument you see only two names of fallen soldiers, so I guess the rest of the platoon fled or was captured.


Title: Re: Oh...that guy...I know these pictures...but who is he?
Post by: MontyB on 23 December 2011, 05:55:56
Here is an interesting write up from the Allied point of view.

http://www.ranger95.com/military_history/battle_bulge/chapter7_breakthru_schnee_eifel.html (http://www.ranger95.com/military_history/battle_bulge/chapter7_breakthru_schnee_eifel.html)

And for the record the OOB of Kampfgruppe Hansen was reported as:
Leader:SS-Standartenfueher Max Hansen
- SS-Panzergrenadier Regt 1 "LSSAH"
- SS-Panzerjaeger Abt 1 "LSSAH"
- I Abt SS-Panzer Artillerie Regt 1 "LSSAH"

Source: Steel Rain: Waffen-SS Panzer Battles in the West 1944-1945 by Tim Ripley
ISBN-10: 0760311684
ISBN-13: 978-0760311684