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« Reply #20 on: 17 February 2010, 22:07:14 »
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Where have all the Panzers gone...

Where Have all the Flowers Gone?
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« Reply #21 on: 18 February 2010, 14:38:46 »
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C'mon Koen, bring on your KABOOEM..
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« Reply #22 on: 18 February 2010, 17:26:13 »
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Where have all the Panzers gone...

Where Have all the Flowers Gone?



Hey! That is originally a Marlene Dietrich song from the ´30s ("Sag mir, wo die Blumen sind" will find it in youtube), but I ike it better from Hildegard Knef, a song I heard by my mother and cherished - and that influenced me to a point I guess - when I was just 5-6 or so:

Hildegard Knef-Sag mir wo die Blumen sind ? ?


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« Reply #23 on: 18 February 2010, 17:30:41 »
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Ja, Ich bin famliar....

Marlene Dietrich Sag mir wo die blumen sind


...but this is my favorite version by my favorite female singer...

Joan Baez - Sagt Mir Wo Die Blumen Sind
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« Reply #24 on: 18 February 2010, 18:02:53 »
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Well, there are more versions, and here why I think they are worthwile posting (w/o at all wanting to enter in a pissing contest):

While myself a great Joan Baez fan, for our generation I find she has not enough "morbidity" in her voice to transmit the soul of the song, the despair and the emptiness in the cycle (Marlene has, but in the WWII context).

For me, there needed to be a new background when I was young, WWII too far away in the past, and Vietnam just (almost) over, the folk version too soft for what I felt, Wolf Biermann and Nina Hagen from East Germany had great versions but they does not exist on youtube.

Then, in the ´80s, around the SS20 discussions, me just out of service over an issue, the song got resurrected in the "NDW" (Neue Deutsche Welle) surge, adapted to the times (in music and lyrics: "...der Präsident ist ausgeklinkt..." = "... the (US) President turned crazy...") by singers my age and with my experience and bkgnd and transmitting much more (for me) the stupidity in (and the resignation over) the neverending cycle both by attitude and voice, here just one example, by Wolf Maahn, 1982, the version that til today *affects* me most, still can wet my eyes as the others cannot:

Wolf Maahn - Sag mir wo die Blumen sind 1982


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« Reply #25 on: 18 February 2010, 18:57:09 »
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C'mon Koen, bring on your KABOOEM..



euh...I'm leaving for...

Paaldansen

hopefully a more professional one....
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« Reply #26 on: 18 February 2010, 20:05:32 »
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Watching the vid I really was wondering what safety measures the instructor had taken when the lady had to take the hands off the bar (as the fall was previsible), I can completely understand her hefty reaction, she might as well have come out paralyzed or even might have died.

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« Reply #27 on: 19 February 2010, 02:41:13 »
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Thats a very understated version Matt, but quite effective in transmitting the emotional content. Thanks for sharing!
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« Reply #28 on: 19 February 2010, 19:24:24 »
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Watching the vid I really was wondering what safety measures the instructor had taken when the lady had to take the hands off the bar (as the fall was previsible), I can completely understand her hefty reaction, she might as well have come out paralyzed or even might have died.

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the instructor is a blond former Miss Belgium...so you can't blame it on here  hihi
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« Reply #29 on: 20 February 2010, 14:05:41 »
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Blond...AND Belgium?

Are you sure she is not to blame Koen  whistle( sorry couldnt resist ) Brede lach
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« Reply #30 on: 20 February 2010, 14:19:10 »
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Alright Koen, enough of the wrestling girls, back to the war, are you still interested in playing this scenario?
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« Reply #31 on: 20 February 2010, 19:17:02 »
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Alright Koen, enough of the wrestling girls, back to the war, are you still interested in playing this scenario?


yes, today I went out to get my K1 home
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« Reply #32 on: 23 March 2010, 21:31:40 »
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Jody and I are engaged in a bloody battle!

my SS troops have now secured the rivercrossings and the 1st line of houses under an overwhelming smokecover

Jody's tank-reinforcements are now entering the battlezone together with this 122mm tanks who seem to be indestructable, my Panthers are doing fine altough they seem to have problems with the wet ground....damn....

good battle Henk, we can think of some modifications but it's more then a good start.... good job  iconclap
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« Reply #33 on: 24 March 2010, 14:05:12 »
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The destruction of the civilian infrastructure in this battle is ruthless in its execution, however the stalwart defenders shall yield no ground, even now local counterattacks have stymied the fascist drive in many parts of the battlefield. In short time we shall have the enemy retreating with their tails between their legs...




{any resemblance to the truth in the above statement is accidental...}
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The destruction of the civilian infrastructure in this battle is ruthless in its execution, however the stalwart defenders shall yield no ground, even now local counterattacks have stymied the fascist drive in many parts of the battlefield. In short time we shall have the enemy retreating with their tails between their legs...

{any resemblance to the truth in the above statement is accidental...}



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« Reply #35 on: 24 March 2010, 20:38:48 »
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Koen,

Just a tiny detail but you have Wehrmacht troops Knipoog
And the battle is pretty historical.
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Koen,

Just a tiny detail but you have Wehrmacht troops Knipoog
And the battle is pretty historical.


 Knipoog  Brede lach  oops  clever
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« Reply #37 on: 24 December 2010, 22:42:06 »
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Koen, Facman,

Did you guys finish this test?
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« Reply #38 on: 25 December 2010, 04:06:09 »
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Sorry, I lost track of this one, maybe between my trips between Ca & Ar. dont even remember where we are...
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Sorry, I lost track of this one, maybe between my trips between Ca & Ar. dont even remember where we are...


is that the one where the Germans attack and have to cross a river/bridges on 1 side and open fields on the other side?
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