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« Reply #40 on: 29 March 2011, 08:35:41 »
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US Pulls Punches with Libya ROE

March 26, 2011
Military.com|by Bryant Jordan
 
U.S. and coalition aircraft attempting to force the Libyan army to lay down arms are pulling their punches by not attacking in the contested cities, according to a senior Defense Department official.  Vice Adm. Bill Gortney, director of the Joint Staff, said the coalition has adopted restrictive rules of engagement to avoid killing the civilians.

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« Reply #41 on: 29 March 2011, 08:55:25 »
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Libyan rebels close on key Gaddafi stronghold

Monday, 28 March 2011
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Libya's rebel forces closed in today on Muammar Gaddafi's hometown of Sirte, the gateway to the western half of the country after it was targeted for the first time by international air strikes.

Witnesses in Sirte said that bombing was heard last night and then again 6.30am, but there was no fighting in the streets or signs of rebel forces. The night before dozens of fighters loyal to Gaddafi could be seen roaming the streets.

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« Reply #42 on: 29 March 2011, 09:06:54 »
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Libya Ground Operation May Start In April – Russian Intelligence
Written by: Ria Novosti

The international coalition force is planning a ground operation in Libya that could start in late April, a high-ranking Russian intelligence service source said on Friday.

“Information coming via different channels shows that NATO countries, with the active participation of Britain and the United States, are developing a plan for a ground operation on Libyan territory,” he said.

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« Reply #43 on: 29 March 2011, 21:29:24 »
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The mission for the Belgian F-16s has evolved from 'patrolling over sea' to 'combat' flights. Their homebase is still in Araxos/Greece.

March 27th was their first attack on a ground target.

No details known yet from Belgian officials but the Pentagon stated say they bombed/attacked an ammodepot at Mizdah together with Danish, Canadian and US forces today March 29th.

6 Dutch F-16s have arrived in Sardinia and are now patrolling over sea in a squadron of 4 assisted by an air-refuel plane KDC-10.
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« Reply #44 on: 30 March 2011, 01:10:42 »
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Do we have an OOB for this fight yet?

What did Denmark send to the fight?

Good Hunting.

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« Reply #45 on: 30 March 2011, 01:38:10 »
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I think the "Forces Committed" section is about the closest I have seen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Military_intervention_in_Libya
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« Reply #46 on: 30 March 2011, 11:52:51 »
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I think the "Forces Committed" section is about the closest I have seen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Military_intervention_in_Libya

it's not up-to-date
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« Reply #47 on: 30 March 2011, 21:58:46 »
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it's not up-to-date

Indeed not. No mention of the Spanish Submarine and how it is relentlessly fighting Ghadafi following orders (I am sure it is, no disrespect meant to the sailors, my comment is strictly political).

Saw a cartoon yesterday, *submerged* submarine with Spanish flag, loudspeaker - a text blob representing it - crackling: "Captain speaking: I have good and bad news, crew. First the good: NATO has taken command of the action against Lybia!" Cheers of "Hurra!" "How great" , etc. ... Then: "Now the bad news: NATO, that´s *us!*"  Brede lach

Currently, the rebels had to flee Sirte and sourroundings (I have a photo journo friend who claims - being there - that even Ras Lanuf is lost again, but I suspect he might be confusing cities - has happened to him before - as Ras Lanuf seemed to be well secured by coalition air assets, also from his info), pounded by better trained (and better equipped, but if I understand everything right then there is rather a problem of leadership and training than simple a lack of arms, technology or ammo) Ghaddafi forces who include the Chad Mercs (lets remind those for a second - as Genevea Convention does not protect them they get shot when captured as we just saw live today for 300 of them on Spanish News, after interviewing all of them: According to them, they were paid around 1.000 Euros a day, got hashish and viagra for free, and were told that they were fighting Israel Mossad infiltrants, average age 19. Orders: Kill all the men and violate all the women you meet -  hence the viagra. *They* stated that, quite obviously not pressed or tortured in any way, just minutes before their execution and quite relaxed from my POV. As I know that in many nations like Germany, UK, US etc such documents are not shown on TV, I just thought I´d mention it).

AFAIK Russian intel reported that NATO is planning a ground attack to compensate for rebels shortcomings, but I seriously doubt that, it would be totally conter productive. My bet is that  - following US suggestions - the rebels will be armed and some "advisors" sent to get some order into this group of youth that dont follow orders (unacceptable in a "real" military force, but standard here, this is an uprising and not armed forces clashing...!).

My final result bet remains valid: A two-states Lybia if Ghadafi is not assasinated or leaves, and latter is unrealistic to expect as he holds the south and cannot be ousted (for geography)...

OTOH, it seems the "coalition" has reached its goal: Petrol flows again (and lost it again if indeed Ras Lanuf and sourroundings have fallen back to Ghadafi).

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« Reply #48 on: 31 March 2011, 18:14:48 »
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All allied operations in Lybia are now controlled by S.H.A.P.E. - Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe - in Bergen/Belgium


http://www.aco.nato.int/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Headquarters_Allied_Powers_Europe

"Vigilia Pretium Libertatis" - Latin for "The Price of Freedom is Vigilance"

Supreme Commander of all NATO operations is currently Admiral James Stavridis: http://www.aco.nato.int/page15314820.aspx
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pictures: http://gigapica.geenstijl.nl/2011/03/odyssey_dawn.html
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US fuel stops Gripen Libya mission
Published: 7 Apr 11 07:55 CET | Double click on a word to get a translation

The eight fighter jets are located in the US part of the Sigonella airbase on Sicily and the only fuel available it that which is used for US navy aircraft.

The Gripen were due to participate in their first mission over Libya on Thursday but this has now been delayed and test flights have been postponed.

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Will Libya stalemate force US out of its back-seat role?
Pressure rises on the Obama administration to take action in Libya. Officials weigh the humanitarian costs of holding back against the economic and political costs of action.

By Howard LaFranchi, Staff writer / April 6, 2011

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As the Libya conflict appears to settle into a potentially protracted stalemate, the memory of President Obama’s demand that Muammar Qaddafi step down from power – essentially a call for regime change – is feeding a debate over what the president will or should do now to influence the outcome.

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Libya crisis: Rebels in race to train recruits
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At a military base in Benghazi, rebel leaders are in a desperate race to train new recruits.

They learn how to assemble and dismantle a heavy machine gun. Half an hour on this, then on to another lesson - perhaps the mechanics of firing a mortar shell with accuracy or how to handle an AK47.

This is how Libya's rebel army is being trained.

As one group of young men sits attentively on the floor of the parade ground in Benghazi, an instructor shows them how to arm and fire a mortar shell.

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Bombing by International Consensus
Libya reveals the complications of multilateralism.

In his speech last Monday, President Obama did manage to identify a few U.S. interests that could be threatened by the turmoil in Libya. But he placed far more emphasis on the moral case for action — our “responsibility to act.” And when he summarized his actions — consulting with other nations, pressing for U.N. Security Council resolutions that condemn Libya, imposing sanctions, and authorizing the use of force to protect civilians — notably missing was any effort to secure congressional approval.

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NATO to intensify airstrikes over Libya
( Source: Xinhua  )         2011-April-7 06:21
??BRUSSELS, April 6 (Xinhua) -- NATO aircraft plan to fly 198 sorties over Libya on Wednesday, which would be the highest for a single day since NATO assumed full command of operations on March 31, the alliance's spokeswoman said.

??Oana Lungescu said in a statement that NATO jets plan to conduct 198 sorties, but didn't specify how many of them would be airstrikes against ground targets in Libya.

??The "operational tempo has increased" and protecting civilians in Misrata, a rebel-held city near Libyan capital Tripoli, is NATO's first priority, she said.

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NATO now has a special webpage for the Libyan operation...

http://natolibguides.info/libya
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Libyan Rebels Making Tactical Strides

April 06, 2011
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BREGA, Libya - The Libyan rebels' battlefield tactics have come a long way since their chaotic, amateur performance just weeks before when their untrained fighters madly charged ahead and then fled just as wildly in the face of bombardment.
On a recent day on the front lines, a truck-born battery of rockets moved methodically, unleashing a whooshing volley of Grads on government forces, then advanced several hundred yards (meters) ahead to avoid counter-strikes before firing again. Forward observers with newly acquired satellite phones and GPS trackers guide the strikes

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Gadhafi, in letter, asks Obama to end air strikes

MATTHEW LEE, Associated Press – Wed Apr 6, 7:07 pm ET

WASHINGTON – Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi appealed directly to President Barack Obama on Wednesday to end what Gadhafi called "an unjust war." He also wished Obama good luck in his bid for re-election next year.
"You are a man who has enough courage to annul a wrong and mistaken action," Gadhafi wrote in a rambling, three-page letter to Obama obtained by The Associated Press on Wednesday. "I am sure that you are able to shoulder the responsibility for that."
The White House confirmed the letter, but top officials shrugged it off.
"I don't think there is any mystery about what is expected from Mr. Gadhafi at this time," Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said, repeating U.S. and NATO demands that Gadhafi's forces pull back and cease attacks. She also renewed a demand that Gadhafi step down from power and leave the country.

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NATO air strike hits Libya rebel convoy

Sebastian Abbot, Associated Press

Friday, April 8, 2011

(04-08) 04:00 PDT Ajdabiya, Libya --

An apparent NATO air strike slammed into a rebel combat convoy Thursday, killing at least five fighters and sharply boosting anger among anti-government forces after the second bungled mission in a week blamed on the military alliance.

The attack - outside the strategic oil port of Brega - brought fresh questions about coordination between NATO and the patchwork of rebel militias in a conflict described by a senior U.S. commander as a stalemate that could eventually require the Pentagon to reassert more power, and possibly even send in ground forces.



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Libyan rebels and residents flee Ajdabiya

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Families fled from Ajdabiya to Benghazi amid rumours that Gaddafi loyalist forces had made advances [AFP]
Groups of Libyan rebels and civilians have fled from the eastern town of Ajdabiya after a rebel armoured unit was hit by apparent NATO air strikes, allowing government troops to advance.

Families packed into cars and lorries on Thursday and joined rebel military vehicles in a convoy heading northeast towards the de facto opposition capital of Benghazi, around 160km away.

Libyan state television claimed that forces loyal to longtime leader Muammar Gaddafi had entered Ajdabiya, but residents said they could see no sign of them.

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