NCO Club: Off Topic Discussions => The Lounge - Get A Beer & Just Chatter Away => Topic started by: Mad Russian on 19 April 2009, 14:28:33



Title: Video Game Controversy
Post by: Mad Russian on 19 April 2009, 14:28:33
Seems that a video game company, Konami, has decided to do a game on a recent battle in Iraq. The game is called Six Days in Fallujah.

Some veterans and families want it banned. Others, including some veterans are supporting the game.

Check it out.

 Article on the Game (http://www.joystiq.com/2009/04/10/soldiers-discuss-six-days-in-fallujah-controversy/)

 Long Article (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/04/08/warring-factions-six-days-in-fallujah-sparks-controversy/)

 Video Clip of the Controversy (http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/playback/playback-40/1306796)

 Long List of Articles on the Game (http://www.mahalo.com/Six_Days_in_Fallujah_Controversy)


I've discussed this subject with a close friend before. How close to the actual event do you make a wargame that covers it? Our feelings were that you don't do it closer than 10 years. What are your feelings on the subject?

Good Hunting.

MR



Title: Re: Video Game Controversy
Post by: bongotastic on 19 April 2009, 15:14:21
Mixed feelings, I like to look at wargame as another way to study history (and a fun one), regardless whether it is ancient history of history made today. A tactical shooter, no matter how tactical, will not "inform" about counter-insurgency and thus will miss the point of the last 7 years in Iraq. The informational argument smells off to me. I'm fine with gaming current conflict, as long as it is done respectfully and that once the scenario is over, you feel like you understand what is going on over there better. Chances are that you can't get this in a Xbox360 game. Trivializing Fallujah/Iraq by turning it into an action tactical shooter is certain to hurt some grieving American and Iraqi families.

As for banning, well, it isn't going to solve the perceived problem by the peace groups. Controversy was the best marketing tools for Marilyn Manson concerts!


Title: Re: Video Game Controversy
Post by: stoffel on 19 April 2009, 16:41:58
Well,

If I look at the military itself, they dont have any problems with making (supporting)games.
Even if they look about the fighting in Iraq/Afghanistan.

What is CoD4 or VSB different or even cmsf from modern fighting in Mout areas like above named countries?


Title: Re: Video Game Controversy
Post by: Mad Russian on 23 April 2009, 06:50:16
Okay, but how would you feel if you were in the game as a leader and they rated you poorly and some of your men were killed? Men with the real names of the real participants and even if you are still serving in Iraq?

Or if it was your brother, uncle, newphew?

It's too close for a historical reenactment. Fictional or generalization is okay but not a historical one.

Good Hunting.

MR