NCO Club: Off Topic Discussions => The Lounge - Get A Beer & Just Chatter Away => Topic started by: Jilly on 27 November 2009, 17:37:33



Title: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 27 November 2009, 17:37:33
So,  it's Friday again, I've had a very boring week.  What are you all up to this weekend?

How's life treating you?  Good?  So, so.  Crap?

Anyone want to come around for a barbecue and a few beers?

I'll need someone to bring the beers,   I'll supply the rest.   :)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 27 November 2009, 19:50:31
VERY busy at work....tired to the teeth....slow progress is visible...they bought me a laptop to be mobile for data input.... smallclap

and I've been sick for the last 2 days.... waa

tomorrow it's Simple Minds day with a live performance in Brussels.... iconclap iconclap iconclap iconclap iconclap iconclap iconclap iconclap iconclap

SIMPLE MINDS - New Gold Dream LIVE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLdMXILw1wQ#normal)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 27 November 2009, 20:44:44
Whatever.  More burgers for me then.    :idea:


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 28 November 2009, 15:45:29
Whatever.  More burgers for me then.    :idea:


no BBQ weather here...and certainly NO burgers on my BBQ  :whistle:


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: FACman on 28 November 2009, 18:22:42
2 racks of Baby back ribs (pork) dry rubbed this morning for grilling this afternoon, when they will get their blanket of brown sugar and be slow cooked for several hours, then a barbecue sauce  will be swabbed on for 2 cycles of candying and the final swab will stay moist for serving. When Im done it shall be best described as butter on the bone. Beautiful weather here in Ar-Kansas, sunny & cool but comfortable.





Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Mike on 28 November 2009, 22:56:54
3 more weeks of hard work and than its christmass vacation, gotta keep going, i love this nursing stuff but i dont love the studying.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 28 November 2009, 23:42:56
Sant Elm displayed it´s magic for me again today:

Just about 20 minutes before when I would not have known what to do with a puppy (son of my "Locke" and a Beagle) that I had exectued my - as owner of the father - primary selection right for another person that wanted a puppy but suddenly disappeared and that was going to be brought to me today - I suddenly found an owner, just like that, on the road! It never ever even had to enter my house, the hand over was executed in the mountains... (pooh!).

Real Mallorca Soccer Club scored a 1:1 draw in Valencia - absolutely not to be expected neither from team class difference POV as well as from actual match evolution, and even less so in Valencia.

To make it totally random thoughts:

Since today we have now, in winter and with only 50 persons living here, suddenly 2 soccer bars, out of the blue where we had none in high season (we have no bank anymore, though, they dissolved it in high season 3 month ago with the result of every tourist trying to pay one beer with a credit card)...

Magic.

Spain.

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 29 November 2009, 11:36:51
3 more weeks of hard work and than its christmass vacation, gotta keep going, i love this nursing stuff but i dont love the studying.


keep going bud, the end is near...


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: sky2979 on 1 December 2009, 18:01:20
Good things fall apart...so better things can fall together........


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 1 December 2009, 18:16:21
I like that saying, Sky  :)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: sky2979 on 1 December 2009, 19:19:36
I like that saying, Sky  :)



Sigh.......thank you mami.........I kinda feel better now......


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 4 December 2009, 20:02:38
For a long time now,  I've been looking out to purchase some land, near here where I live.

I think I might have found the right spot.  It's a nice piece of land, 50 acres of woodland,  with mature trees, a large stream running through the  property,  500 feet of road frontage, and best of all, it's only a short walk to a lake and beach.  And around a 40 min.  drive from where I am.

It looks promising, and is not too expensive,  land is quite cheap around this area.  Eventually I would like to build a cabin on the property.  Here are some designs that I have my eye on.  Let me know which one you all think is best.

And ofcourse,  once the cabin is complete,  I'll have a big cabin warming party,  let me know if you'd like to come.  :)

(http://www.swedishlogcabins.info/images/large-log-house1.jpg)
 
(http://www.blackridgecabins.com/images/black-ridge-cabins.jpg)

(http://www.realvistalogcabins.com/wp-content/gallery/log-cabins/log_cabins_log_homes19.jpg)

(http://www.homesteadtimbers.com/images/photo_michigan_log_cabin.jpg)

Whichever design I choose it HAS to have a fireplace and chimey,  for those cold, snowy winter days/nights.  I can imagine the inside looking something like these:

(http://www.ibuyloghomes.com/images/SMiller/LOG%20CABIN%20ILIKE%20FIREPLACE_400pix.jpg)

I like this fireplace too:

(http://www.appalachianwoods.com/appalachianwoods/images/cabin_floor_fireplace.jpg)

(http://www.celebratebig.com/whidbey-island/langley-mystery-weekend-greenbank-log-cabin-cottages/guest-house-log-cottages-whidbey-island-greenbank-cabin-bedroom.jpg)

Any other ideas or suggestions very welcome.  Anyone on here ever built or help build a cabin before?  Any advice or tips appreciated.



Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 4 December 2009, 20:05:10
I think I prefer the first one,  seems simple and functional.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 4 December 2009, 20:52:38
I think I prefer the first one,  seems simple and functional.

#2 for me with a stream on the property.

Inside, regarding your ideas, I am awestruck, looks like "money", maybe it isn´t in Canada. Go for it!

Alternatively look for something you can manage alone when you are old even in winter, i.e an autonomous life with enough terrain for hunting and minor farming, water and electicity that you don´t have to pay... But until that combine it with looking for a winter residence in Southern Europe (hint, hint!  waa)

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 4 December 2009, 21:33:37
Number 2 is nice too isn't it?  It's higher off the ground, which is always good, if we have stormy weather, which is a likelihood.

The land itself is not that expensive, Matt.  The cabin will probably cost more than the land itself,  or about the same,  but it'll be worth it in the end.

A residence is Europe would be out of my price range for sure,  nice thought though.  :)

Electricity and water shouldn't be too much of a problem (hopefully).  There are already other residences around in the area and the mains electricity just has to be connected from the main road.  Water will come in the form of  underground well.

The wildlife could be a bit of a challenge though...   :)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: sky2979 on 4 December 2009, 22:49:06
If I run fast enough will I get what I want?????????????? lol.......... xangel


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: FACman on 5 December 2009, 12:05:28
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If I run fast enough will I get what I want?


I doubt it, more than likely you'll just fall farther behind, stop pushing the river. If you are at peace with yourself the world will unfold before you. hatsoff


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Mad Russian on 5 December 2009, 19:03:12
Tired this week.

Dealing with the mortgage company, dealing with the VA, dealing with the company HR that has no actual human in it...I thought thats what the H stood for - HUMAN...anyway, it's been a long week.

The cold weather doesn't help. It hurts my bones.

And finally 2009 isn't over yet..it's still slowly creeping forward like a tortoise that is tired of the race. I will be very grateful when 2009 is over and done with. Then maybe things will improve...they certainly can't go a whole lot lower than they are at the moment. BUT everything happens for a reason. AND what doesn't kill us makes us stronger.

So, considering all that....I'm reasonably stronger.... :salute:


Good Hunting.

MR



Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 5 December 2009, 19:48:10
Life can to tough sometimes huh, MR?  I'm sure it'll all work itself out sooner or later.

Here's an interesting display by the  Indian airforce:

BBC News - Indian airforce's dazzling helicopter display (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8397072.stm#id8390000/8397000/8397072) 


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Mike on 5 December 2009, 22:20:19
Becoming 22 years old tomorrow and i dont like it one bit. I still want to be a "kid" somedays you know. real life is catching up with me so fast :p

Anyway this year i'm gonna make a new start, already started going back to shcool, i like it so thats number 1.

Number2, really really hoping i find someone to "love", i've been alone all my life and i'm getting sick and tired from it. Mike is starting to need some affection ;) This my fault for a part, the few girls that were interested in me i didnt like that way, maybe i schould have a more "open-mind" about these things.

Number3: Hang out with my friends more.

nd then somemor things :p


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 5 December 2009, 23:07:28
Mike,

As it is SAT night I am giving you some - well earned - leeway:

Becoming 22 years old tomorrow and i dont like it one bit. I still want to be a "kid" somedays you know. real life is catching up with me so fast :p

Don´t you worry: You will *always* be a kid even if over 50, you won´t lose that (but you will have to find the lady that knows *and loves* it)...

I guess it is in our genes, but for women we will always have that "inunderstandable" kid aspect even when matured. I, personally, like and cherish this, we have enough roblems being real men, any "kid" relief is wellcome...

This said, you are still a "twen" after tomorrow, and many more years to come... CONGRATS, caballero!  :champ:

Number2: really really hoping I find someone to "love"; i've been alone all my life and i'm getting sick and tired from it. Mike is starting to need some affection ;) This my fault for a part, the few girls that were interested in me i didnt like that way, maybe i schould have a more "open-mind" about these things.


Not your fault as far as you dexcribe:If it its not worth it do *not* go for it... Do not rush things, live life the "Rattler" way, take it easy. How long has *your* life been by now? 4 yrs? 2 yrs? When did you start it on your own (left from home)?

I am looking back on some (startting with 17) 36 yrs now, and there are mysteries that haven´t revealed themselves to me yet, but one thing is sure for me: If it is to hit, it will. And then, it will be allright. I cannot give you much guidance as my life shows I havent even managed to get mine on line, but I believe that dropping your level of expectations is the wrong way to start things out...

We have a saying in Germany "Every pot has it´s cover", so: Just ride it out, don´t let anything burn and screw away all you can, but always have this eye open for what you really are looking for... Give, and do ot expect reward for it, the best way to go.

Number3: Hang out with my friends more.

Not a bad idea as such, but heavily contradicting your #2, methinks... Chicks AFAIK do not take a real liking to that... :)

Kindest regards, and "Happy Birthday!" to you:  :champ:

 bdaypty

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 5 December 2009, 23:49:46
Have a great birthday,  Mike.

Wow 22,  you are SO young.  :)

(http://msp519.photobucket.com/albums/u360/friendsterfurniture/happy_birthday_cake.jpg)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Mike on 6 December 2009, 10:46:07
@ rattler, wise words again my friend :)
and thanks

@ Jilly thanks :)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 7 December 2009, 00:01:29
There was a birthday cake in my last post,  not sure where it went.   ???



Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 7 December 2009, 00:05:57
There was a birthday cake in my last post,  not sure where it went.   ???


I have sen it, sometimes it displays, sometimes ot. must be a photobucket thingy as all other stuff displays well.

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 7 December 2009, 00:10:24
So,  what will you most remember about this year?  Either personally or generally?  Was it a good year for you?  Or not so good?

So, how was this year for you and what do you have planned for 2010?    :)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 7 December 2009, 00:29:41
Yes, it's not anyone's fault.  Here's another one for  Mike:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9B6Jxv_c8ls/SXDqFDV6o0I/AAAAAAAAGiM/jixnwFkgiPo/s400/Mikes+Birthday+Cake.jpg)    :champ:


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Mad Russian on 7 December 2009, 06:26:10
2009 in review:

January - Our youngest daughter went into the hospital to have an emergency C-Section done to save her and the baby. They were in the hospital more than a month each.

An Uncle died.

Having trouble with my joints swelling up. Having a hard time walking without crutches or a cane.

March - The woman that raised me as my Mom died. I couldn't afford to go the funeral.

April - Youngest daughter back the hospital and is operated on.

Lost my job because the company went bankrupt.

May - Got another job.

June - My best friend dies of cancer.

Koen and I have issues.

Went to see my Father. When I got back they fired me from my job.

Visited the Lady that raised me's grave and paid my respects.

July - My Father dies on our youngest daughters birthday.

Aug - Our youngest daughter is back in the hospital.

My wife's best friend and the wife of my longest gaming friend dies of breast cancer.

Having problems with my joints swelling up.

Sept - My joints swell to the point I can't walk. I finally go to the VA.

Stopped mortgage company from foreclosing on my home.

Middle daughter and her family move back from Kentucky. All the kids and grandkids back in Tx now.

Oct - Still can't walk without either a cane or crutches.

Start interview process with Coca Cola Company.  They were less than thrilled that I couldn't walk without a cane.

Youngest daughter back in the hospital. FINALLY she see's another doctor.

Sent to the VA hospital for x-rays. Had 32 x-rays done of all my joints and my back. Results were good. Electric bill much lower now since I now glow in the dark..... :D

Nov - Finally get the correct diagnosis after 3 years. Find out I have rheumatoid arthritis. Get some medication that starts to work.

Coke drags out the hiring process for a secondary job.

Youngest daughter and youngest grand-daughter home for Thanksgiving. I can at least walk unaided for short periods. It was a good visit.

Dec - They hire someone else for the original position but are talking to me continuously about the secondary job. They are a strange company to do business with in HR. No reps here. Closest one in Dallas and then Atlanta.

The ESL (English as a Second Language)/US Citizenship program I direct gets local attention in the newspaper. We are growing slowly. Our entire organization is volunteer.

Midnight December 31st 2009 - By this time I will have had the worst year of my life and it will finally be behind me personally and for my family as well. Couldn't happen to a nicer year. Everything happens for a reason and what doesn't kill us makes us stronger.

That should mean I'm reasonably stronger for what happens for the rest of my life on this planet. I'll need that to help me with some of the left over issues that 2009 brought. But it should be easier to handle after what we've just been through.

Good Hunting.

MR


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: FACman on 7 December 2009, 14:16:29
What a year, Im glad its behind you as well. As for the VA, if you dont have a rep, get one. They will guide you through the labrynth the VA has set up. Personally, I chose the American Legion because they were the advocates for starting the VA originally, so they have a lot of exp dealing with them. Though it took almost 3 years they helped get me the settlement I deserved. If the VA had their way, Id still be at 20% instead of the 80% I now have.

At your service,

Jody


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 7 December 2009, 15:12:32
Wow,  it has been a very tough year for you MR,  hope 2010 is better.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: sky2979 on 7 December 2009, 16:01:15
Pedicure sounds great  xangel


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 7 December 2009, 17:10:47
I feel like going for  a loonng drive, and losing myself.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: sky2979 on 7 December 2009, 17:56:09
Hold off till' the summer when we visit Las Vegas *big smile* then you can really lose yourself ;) lol........... xangel


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 7 December 2009, 23:03:28
That's sounds so good, Sky.  I'd love to go.  And don't forget what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas ;)

(hey, why should the guys have all the fun huh?)   ;D


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 7 December 2009, 23:07:55
Funny story:  my son came home from school today (he's 10 years old) and forever has the girls chasing after him.  Today, he told me that the boys in his class are telling him of a little girl in the next class who has a big crush on him.  

'What's she like?' I asked

'she's nice...I think'  he said.

'But I don't want talk about it Mom!'  and walks away.

I wonder if this is the same little girl who always runs after him in the playground to try and kiss him?  She got him one time already!    ;D


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 7 December 2009, 23:22:12
 :champ:

At 10 girls are "eeek!" for outsiders and collleagues... :)

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: sky2979 on 8 December 2009, 08:57:56
LOL!! He's so precious Jilly!!!! My oldest son is 9, and the girls are so after him too, lol.....sigh....I dont know what I'll do when he brings a girlfriend home..:(....he's my baby....lol...sigh.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 8 December 2009, 15:53:58
He's a cutie, Sky.   He'll be a  heartbreaker one day.  I used to have people stop me in the street, shops, bus etc.  just to comment on how cute he was, ever since he was very little.  Little old ladies couldn't go past him without commenting and patting his head.   :)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 15 December 2009, 19:55:24
For some reason I keep thinking it's the weekend.,

Sky,  are you going to Vegas by yourself or with someone else?


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: FACman on 16 December 2009, 11:49:31
Sometime within the next month, I shall be moving back to Ca. so that I might watch my granddaughter grow up, I have missed way to much already. There shall be a short intermission from my posting as I get settled.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 16 December 2009, 12:41:48
Godspeed then!

Rattler
Sometime within the next month, I shall be moving back to Ca. so that I might watch my granddaughter grow up, I have missed way to much already. There shall be a short intermission from my posting as I get settled.



Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 16 December 2009, 17:49:50
Is this going to be a major move for you FAcman or just a temporary thing?  California sound wonderful,  wish you all the best with it.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 16 December 2009, 17:52:46
So,  I'm looking for a job right now,  busy writing out resumes etc.  I'd rather work locally, around the village, as that'll give me more time at home with my kids and less highway driving.  This, however, leaves me with very little choice.  I do know the owners of the local country store and she has asked me to drop in a resume,  so I might end up working there.  See how it goes, wish me luck with this!


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 16 December 2009, 20:06:41
So,  I'm looking for a job right now,  busy writing out resumes etc.  I'd rather work locally, around the village, as that'll give me more time at home with my kids and less highway driving.  This, however, leaves me with very little choice. 



All the best! (wished seriously)!

from my strictly personal POV: Re-think! Re-consider!

*Looking for* a job? Or rather a passion? A life goal?

How (I am serious here) can somone be *looking for* a job in earnest if it was not just for money?

If it was not for dough, a job would *stop us* from doing what we *really want/need* to do most urgently, and if we wait for the time after jobs until we are pensioners, we will die wihin a year (plain statistics, google it)

Why not simply *invent* a business that shows who and why you *are here*, what is your passion, what is your life goal, why not stop being taken care of (your book sounds a good start, though it will probably take years to refine it for a publisher to buy it...). Shameless using another persoanality: To BE or to DO? http://www.warandtactics.com/smf/war-conflicts-20th-century-discussions/the-%27to-be-or-to-do%27-invitation/msg10715/#msg10715 (http://www.warandtactics.com/smf/war-conflicts-20th-century-discussions/the-%27to-be-or-to-do%27-invitation/msg10715/#msg10715) ??

I live a similar job creation situation currently (not job *searching*!), right now got me a job for next week, slave labour, deweeding 150.000 sqm of terrain for some (worthy and dign actually!) 10 Euros an hour which will decelerate my precipitation course towards street bum..., but the true idea is to *decide actively* and plan (creatively) on *how* you are going to make ends meet *on the long run* (there must be illusion if you want to triumph).

From my POV, slave work can only be a punctual answer out of pure need and should *not* be pursued actively, focus your fpowers on pursuing somthing you *want* to do...

Again, my (male) take: Forget resumes, is what I say, make yourself known *as person*. Once ppl know who you are (with all backfiring essence of the fact, we enter "prostitiution" instead of "slave labour", i.e. ppl contract you because of *who* you are instead of contracting your simple stereotype *availability*, you start selling a *service* rather than covering a *necessity*.

Now, this take on the small business would probably change things for you, you could plan, do, execute a different picture and drawing (but you wioould lose sleep hours!), *you* would be on the "control" vs. being allowed, your customers would suddenly have transformed from  "boss" to "client" in this change of setup... :)

My take, do your own thing, something you are really devoted to or feel compelled to perform, be real! (we bosses/clients *smell* the difference, however good you are trying to hide it), forget resumes (unreal, the only really interesting part is the photo), *show* what you can do, and *also state what you can *NOT* do clearly!)...

Jobs are not paid for labour, they are paid for experience and time neededto learn them (the best cleaning woman will NOT earn more than the worst banker, simply because her job is easier to learn, despite the fact that her job on an overall view creates *way* more bucks for society than the banker...), check: http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=495946&in_page_id=2 (http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=495946&in_page_id=2)

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 16 December 2009, 20:52:03
Thanks for all the good advice there,  Rattler.  All noted.

Fact is I just mentioned to the owners of the store that I was looking for some work,  and they phoned me, and asked me to drop in a resume.  Which I've now completed and will give in tomorrow on the way to the city.

I understand what you mean, Rattler.  It's just that this place is only a 5 min drive from here and the people are a nice older couple.  What I *really* want to do, is another thing completely.  My book,  I haven't written in it for some days,  I need to get back to it,  it's just that I keep wondering if it's any good or not, or if anyone will be interested in reading it or not.  But I've got this far and will carry on with it, whether I ever get it published or not.

Another thing that I have considered is writing for the city newspaper, about the village and all the events/things happening here.  Last time I checked they already had someone for that job,  but that was some months back, will try again I think.

Will keep you posted on how it all goes.  It's not that I'm desperate for a job at the moment,  but I think it would be good for me...

Thanks again.   :)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Mad Russian on 16 December 2009, 20:54:02
That's a wonderful POV Rattler.

Bills and cash flow usually kill that POV before you ever get started.

That usually means writing the resume, to get the kind of money in reserve, that brings us to your POV.

Good Hunting.

MR


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 16 December 2009, 20:54:39
Rattler,    good luck with your job too.  If it helps you at the moment, then that's all that matters.   :)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 16 December 2009, 21:08:11
2009 has been a very special, hard and tough year....

I learned alot on myself and my relations with friends...

I learned on myself that I have come from far, that I struggled and fought hard to become a better and different man/husband/friend, that I changed alot but that I'm not there yet...also I realised that I can't change myself into a new Koen...only work hard on modifications...

It hurts when I read that I am one of Steve's bad memories of 2009...can't let this pass without saying 'sorry Steve', I'm not a bad man neither do I want to hurt/upset people on purpose.

I changed jobs....the previous boss was killing me...he was/is a sickened man who created a negative halo around him which leads to the firm being bankrupt and 'for sale'.
After 2 1/2 years I started to tell him what I honestly believed what was wrong...and got fired...

But something decided I should be rewarded for my hard work and I found a new job in 1 week. Better paid but most important a positive vibe, an environment where I can be myself, put some music on, tell jokes, laugh and more good stuff....hard work, lots to do but stressfree!

2010? Well, I'm kind of in a 'thinking' status, wintermode....I'm not making special plans....


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: FACman on 16 December 2009, 22:33:14
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Is this going to be a major move for you FAcman or just a temporary thing


It is my hope that it will be a long, long stay, like until I have great grandchildren. Mary will be staying here with her Mom, while I fulfill my duties as Poppanon. We are strong in our love and have weathered being apart before, I see no reason why we won't handle this new challenge as well. I intend to visit as often as possible to keep the fires burning in our hearts. With our spiritual attachment to Native Americans, we both understand how important sacrifice is to our well being.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Mad Russian on 17 December 2009, 00:39:37

It hurts when I read that I am one of Steve's bad memories of 2009...can't let this pass without saying 'sorry Steve', I'm not a bad man neither do I want to hurt/upset people on purpose.


You didn't read that right Koen. You're not a bad memory. I said we had issues.

There is rarely a right or wrong to a relationship.

I think our relationship is like that too. There is no right or wrong to our different personalities. There are just differences.

We had issues. Those have been resolved from my POV. What our differences were is over for me. Now I work on how to make our differences be minimized for our friendship to continue to be stronger.

2010 hopefully will be better for us all.

Good Hunting.

MR


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Mad Russian on 17 December 2009, 00:43:18

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With our spiritual attachment to Native Americans, we both understand how important sacrifice is to our well being.


You're Native American?

Good Hunting.

MR



Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: FACman on 17 December 2009, 03:14:27
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You're Native American?


I am not, but I still walk the Red Road. Mary and I were adopted into a Lakota Bear Clan and invited to a Sundance one summer many years ago. It was were I had my first 'Sweat Lodge' experience as well.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 17 December 2009, 14:28:40
2009 has been a very special, hard and tough year....

I learned alot on myself and my relations with friends...

I learned on myself that I have come from far, that I struggled and fought hard to become a better and different man/husband/friend, that I changed alot but that I'm not there yet...also I realised that I can't change myself into a new Koen...only work hard on modifications...

It hurts when I read that I am one of Steve's bad memories of 2009...can't let this pass without saying 'sorry Steve', I'm not a bad man neither do I want to hurt/upset people on purpose.

I changed jobs....the previous boss was killing me...he was/is a sickened man who created a negative halo around him which leads to the firm being bankrupt and 'for sale'.
After 2 1/2 years I started to tell him what I honestly believed what was wrong...and got fired...

But something decided I should be rewarded for my hard work and I found a new job in 1 week. Better paid but most important a positive vibe, an environment where I can be myself, put some music on, tell jokes, laugh and more good stuff....hard work, lots to do but stressfree!

2010? Well, I'm kind of in a 'thinking' status, wintermode....I'm not making special plans....


Koen being new on here,  I don't really know you too well.  But all I can say, is always just be yourself, whatever that may be.  If we can't be ourselves we are doing ourselves a disservice.  I miss the Koen that I first got to know when I first came on here. Silliness and all. I hope that crazy, but sweet person   returns soon...


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Mad Russian on 17 December 2009, 17:23:04
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You're Native American?


I am not, but I still walk the Red Road. Mary and I were adopted into a Lakota Bear Clan and invited to a Sundance one summer many years ago. It was were I had my first 'Sweat Lodge' experience as well.


Part of my childhood was spent in Riverton, Wyoming. The location of the Wind River Reservation.  The US Government gave the Shoshoni the reservation lands for their support of the westward expansion and their service against the Lakota War Alliance. Then in all it's infinite wisdom sent the Northern Arapaho to live on the reservation as well. But only for a single winter until they could arrange for a permanent location for the NA. They have never been moved and they are to this day, with very few exceptions, enemies.

You're being Lakota would make us blood enemies.....LOL....

The Shoshoni and Lakota were never friends.



Good Hunting.

MR


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 17 December 2009, 18:34:39

It hurts when I read that I am one of Steve's bad memories of 2009...can't let this pass without saying 'sorry Steve', I'm not a bad man neither do I want to hurt/upset people on purpose.


You didn't read that right Koen. You're not a bad memory. I said we had issues.

There is rarely a right or wrong to a relationship.

I think our relationship is like that too. There is no right or wrong to our different personalities. There are just differences.

We had issues. Those have been resolved from my POV. What our differences were is over for me. Now I work on how to make our differences be minimized for our friendship to continue to be stronger.

2010 hopefully will be better for us all.

Good Hunting.

MR


still, it made me think

I will try hard to leave all that stress from 2009 behind me and start 2010 with my sunglasses on to protect me from that sun above my head.

Some people here, you're one of them, I know for some time now and you guys deserve a better me.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 17 December 2009, 18:35:53
2009 has been a very special, hard and tough year....

I learned alot on myself and my relations with friends...

I learned on myself that I have come from far, that I struggled and fought hard to become a better and different man/husband/friend, that I changed alot but that I'm not there yet...also I realised that I can't change myself into a new Koen...only work hard on modifications...

It hurts when I read that I am one of Steve's bad memories of 2009...can't let this pass without saying 'sorry Steve', I'm not a bad man neither do I want to hurt/upset people on purpose.

I changed jobs....the previous boss was killing me...he was/is a sickened man who created a negative halo around him which leads to the firm being bankrupt and 'for sale'.
After 2 1/2 years I started to tell him what I honestly believed what was wrong...and got fired...

But something decided I should be rewarded for my hard work and I found a new job in 1 week. Better paid but most important a positive vibe, an environment where I can be myself, put some music on, tell jokes, laugh and more good stuff....hard work, lots to do but stressfree!

2010? Well, I'm kind of in a 'thinking' status, wintermode....I'm not making special plans....


Koen being new on here,  I don't really know you too well.  But all I can say, is always just be yourself, whatever that may be.  If we can't be ourselves we are doing ourselves a disservice.  I miss the Koen that I first got to know when I first came on here. Silliness and all. I hope that crazy, but sweet person   returns soon...


I know girl....the end of the last job and the start of the new one made me very focused and stressful....but I'm only human...

I'll go to the flowershop tomorrow and send you some... :congrats:


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 18 December 2009, 00:27:44
That's more like it.  I need some fresh ones.   :)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Mad Russian on 18 December 2009, 04:06:13

still, it made me think


It made me think too. So much difference from the dream to the reality of the road that You, Henk, and I walked together in 2009. That was something unexpected to me. But everything happens for a reason and what doesn't kill us makes us stronger.

With that in mind, next time I'll be reasonably stronger to deal with situations like ours.

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Some people here, you're one of them, I know for some time now and you guys deserve a better me.


Not sure about deserving a better you. I think we all strive to better ourselves. But you're like the rest of us. You do the best you can with what you have to work with at the time.

Going back doesn't fix anything. Standing still makes us fall behind. Looking ahead is where our future lies.

Keep looking ahead and it will work itself out.

Good Hunting.

MR


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: FACman on 18 December 2009, 12:50:14
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The Shoshoni and Lakota were never friends.


Nothing wrong with respected enemies in my book. It has long been a fallacy of the US fighting man to under value his opponents. It certainly occurred in The Nam. Good thing was, it was a lesson quickly learned.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 21 December 2009, 17:33:42
So, just imagine that you had one year to see as much of the world as you could.  Where would you start?  Which countries would you aim for and why?  How long would you spend in each country?  How much would you budget for such an adventure?  Would you try and work your way as much as possible? 


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 21 December 2009, 20:35:41
So, just imagine that you had one year to see as much of the world as you could.  Where would you start?  Which countries would you aim for and why?  How long would you spend in each country?  How much would you budget for such an adventure?  Would you try and work your way as much as possible? 


1 year is NOT long enough...

how to? depends on what you want to do, working on the road means integration

I would search for lots of places where nobody disturbs me, where the only things I hear is nature, where all I see is nature....making my mind clear of all junk in my head...

I would also include cities in the middle of the 'lonely' periods....what cities? Chicago, NY, Los Angeles in the USofA, Marseille in France, Berlin in Germany (longer stay due to the WWII/Cold War history), Rome for the historical places...

Countries? Schotland, Canada, Peru, Balkan area, Alaska, Mongolia etc...


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 21 December 2009, 22:12:48
I worked it out one time...and I think 2 years would be more like it.  Enough time to actually spend some time in each country, get to know the ways/locals etc. before moving on.

Why Scotland, Koen?  There's nothing of that much interest there, I don't think.  Canada and the US, well not really, since I've seen most of the two countries already.  I would like to travel around Europe though for sure,  India,  South America,  Ireland,  Australia,  China and probably other Asian countries...


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 22 December 2009, 19:49:54
I worked it out one time...and I think 2 years would be more like it.  Enough time to actually spend some time in each country, get to know the ways/locals etc. before moving on.

Why Scotland, Koen?  There's nothing of that much interest there, I don't think.  Canada and the US, well not really, since I've seen most of the two countries already.  I would like to travel around Europe though for sure,  India,  South America,  Ireland,  Australia,  China and probably other Asian countries...



Schotland? You don't know why? Do type Schotland in Google, order some brochures...

First of all...

Breweries of the famous whiskies...single malts...
(http://www.otrwineandspirits.com/images/429_S-Malt.jpg)

Nature! rough....un-modified...rocks...shores...
(http://www.groothoek.nl/images/schotland289.jpg)

Castles...hundreds of them...
(http://www.relatiemarketing.nl/photos/citytrip_schotland_1.jpg)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Mad Russian on 23 December 2009, 00:53:48
BRAVE HEART!!


Better learn how to spell it before you go though Koen...the Scots are a bit touchy about that....

Good Hunting.

MR


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 23 December 2009, 02:47:22
Scotland is a *must*: It is magnificent, it´s people benevolent, so much history inherent:

If you have 1 month plus and are in doubt, go (especially, the islands, but you will need time for them)!

Do not expect good weather, take the few days of good weather as a present from above! They got this postcard (you can buy it everywhere, but I do not find it on the net, strange!?!): Parted in half it shows a cartoon of a real soaked sheep in the upper half, and exactly the same cartoon iin te bottom half of the card. Only the text is different: Top half says "Scottis Sheep in Summer", bottom half has "Scottish Sheep in Winter" as caption...

But then, the ladies?  woohoo

You want to miss many, they got am unusal (to the Southern European) but extremely appaling quality about them: "! Oh god almighty, why did you not prepare me to be storms and cold resistant ?!"

 :drama: :

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8006/karengillan011024f.jpg)

(http://www.celticove.com/acatalog/Purelife_Winter_Cov.jpg)

(http://static.squidoo.com/resize/squidoo_images/-1/draft_lens6024202module47402322photo_1248196735Abbie_Montrose_has_been_in_Playboy_since_joining_CandyCrib.jpg)

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 23 December 2009, 03:29:12
Well,  the weather is enough to put me off.  Dreary, cold, stormy.  A for castles you can find them anywhere in the UK, Koen.    I lived just walking distance from one, when I lived there.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 23 December 2009, 03:59:29
The islands are a blast, they open horizons (literally as well as methaphorically).

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: FACman on 23 December 2009, 12:27:52
I would have to start in that part of the world which has had a most profound effect upon my life, Vietnam. Only this time without the war to impinge upon its wondrous beauty. For it was truly a beautiful country, at least the part where I served. Triple canopy rainforest and the equally stunning bamboo forests and elephant grass 8 feet tall between the terrain features. Yes, that would be my starting point.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 23 December 2009, 20:27:36
Well,  the weather is enough to put me off.  Dreary, cold, stormy.  A for castles you can find them anywhere in the UK, Koen.    I lived just walking distance from one, when I lived there.


UK for me is NOT the same as Schotland.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 23 December 2009, 20:36:22
hmmm...okay, Koen,  you're the boss.      :whistle:         

FACman,  I can understand why you would want to go back to Vietnam.   Do you think you ever will?  And if you do,  can I come too?   


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 23 December 2009, 20:37:56
hmmm...okay, Koen,  you're the boss.      :whistle:         

FACman,  I can understand why you would want to go back to Vietnam.   Do you think you ever will?  And if you do,  can I come too?   


 hope I'm scoring some points with the Scots now.... :whistle:


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: FACman on 25 December 2009, 07:03:55
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Do you think you ever will?


Even if I could, my health issues would preclude me accessing the places I would truly like to return to. As those places were difficult to get to when I was a strapping young man of 19, I daresay this 60 year old would be hard pressed to make it back to the places I would most like to see.

As for your coming along, you better clear that with Mary...


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 25 December 2009, 07:05:16
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Do you think you ever will?


Even if I could, my health issues would preclude me accessing the places I would truly like to return to. As those places were difficult to get to when I was a strapping young man of 19, I daresay this 60 year old would be hard pressed to make it back to the places I would most like to see.

As for your coming along, you better clear that with Mary...

Take both along...

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: FACman on 25 December 2009, 13:33:15
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Take both along...


In my youth, an excellent solution. Today, I'd just as soon not disappoint two women at one time... hatsoff


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 30 December 2009, 00:21:08
So how will you remember 2009?  

Just wanted to say a big 'thank you' to all you great men (and lady) on here,  for many things.  Matt asked me to join this site and I did some months back.  At first I wasn't sure what I was doing on here,   originally came to keep in touch with Solideo,  whom I knew from another forum.

This year has been a difficult one for me in various ways.  Writing my book took (and is still taking), it's toll on me emotionally,  sometimes I end up in tears just trying to put down in words what I went through as a child,  especially as I want to write it from the heart so that when it's read by others they can connect to what I am trying to say.  This has made me a much more serious person than I normally am.  Or maybe it was a way for me to finally  grow up, face up to what my life was, and in doing so, let go, and move on...  I'm only about a quarter to half way through this book,  at the moment don't know where it's going or how it will end,  or when to end it...

But that's just part of why this year has been hard,  so many other things have happened,  hard to explain them all.  Maybe some of these things you could see by reading in between the lines of what I write, the songs I post, or maybe not.  Either way,  all you guys on here have been very kind and understanding, and most important non-judgmental. and so appreciate that you have let me rant and rave, be angry and childish and all those things.  Kudos to you all,  you truly are a wonderful bunch of people on here,  and the more I get to know you all,  the more I realize that.

We all have our ups and downs,  our good times and bad times,  our easy times and our hard times,  but it's rare to see what I have seen on here.  You support and forgive each other, like true freinds do and I admire you all for this.  You all truly are 'real men',  and I feel lucky to have got to know you all.



Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 30 December 2009, 00:43:58
What a heartfelt, nice, motivating and refreshing post!

As I am on so mmany forums and lists with almost all ex soldiers, I have come to take what you describe for "normal", a fault, I now see, you are right: Sometimes just the right persons find a conjunction and then everything is easier (and can even become addictive: A virtual Family!).

This said, I have not made my mind up yet about this year, but I will let ylu know in time (I am always a bit slower than the rest.. :) )

Thanks!

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 30 December 2009, 20:30:35
thx Jilly, good vibes  :congrats:


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 30 December 2009, 21:09:02
 :-*


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 31 December 2009, 02:14:50
Wow,  what a decade this has been and it's nearly over.  Mobile phones moved from massive to tiny and then grew in size a little because of the tactile screens. GPS devices guide a lot of people everywhere, it became possible to watch TV shows whenever you want, personal music devices shed their cassettes and most of their size, people buy books and trips and tons of other things at home now, nude or unwashed in many cases. Organic food became important to many more people, but obesity skyrocketed as well. It even looks like 3D movies are finally going to catch on, after 50 years of intermittent efforts.

On the down side, a lot of people thought that the world was entering an era of peace with the fall of the Soviet empire, but that did not turn out to be true at all. Global warming has reared its ugly head, and whether not it is the reason, there have been more ecological catastrophes than in many previous decades. Money still makes the world go round and can ruin a lot of lives unexpectedly, even when people thought they were living in a time of prosperity.

Oh, and personal interaction on the internet, whether by chat sites, forums, Skype or any other method has really changed our involvement in the world, hasn't it?

China and India are predicted by many to be the next superpowers.  This has been a decade of massive adjustment and advancement for them.  Can you think of what other profound changes have happened in this last decade?


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 31 December 2009, 14:48:48
I became ten years older in the last decade, which has changed me profoundly... :)

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 1 January 2010, 04:21:05
So, how did you pass New Years?

I got called out of the party in mid dancing, because we were hit with a force 12 strom, and someone said my terrace had gone haywire and one of my dogs (Locke, he was on the chain alone at home) had been buried under the wind shades, chairs and table.

Came home at 0255, force 12 is true, and from SW (no METAR from LEPA, that says it all, winds exceeding 120 kmh), my terrace in shambles indeed, but the dog and the cats are fine... :)... Good start for the year... :)

Attached (click to enlarge: As few people rarely see me like that - and I took off my usual black cap just for the photo, at those winds you can imagine I would be wearing it... :) - and as I am wearing this *original* 80´s outfit incl. shiny cowboy boots probably for the last time - fabric is getting really thin at 20+ yrs - , a quick shot from when I came home... I know I will like this ugly photo in 5 yrs time from now :)...

My rather unrelaxed facial expression (I was actulally feeling quite happy :) ) is due to the above described situation and assorted worries and the gale blowing in through the slits in the windows and door at high power, even with doors closed the carpets would lift, NOTE the torch light in my right hand to inspect damage...

Enjoyed the night, had a really great excellent dinner (paté, then tartar, then fish, then sorbet, then deer), spent my last money, kissed 42 ladies new year, had a few dances with a lady who needed someone who knew to activate her, had not too much to drink: 2010, I am ready! :)

Rattler

P.S.: Got a TAF from Palma now (read like METAR, the extra is forecast, the interesting part is the wind: "23069G89KT" = 230 degrees, 69 KT and gusts 89 KT, forecast says ti will not take long -2nd highlighted group): TAF LEPA 312300Z 0100/0124 23069G89KT 9999 FEW015 TX15/0113Z TN11/0107Z BECMG 0112/0114 26016G30KT=


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Solideo on 1 January 2010, 07:09:35
Damned spakraut, LOL. My end of year has been watching "House", I work in a while, so I went for dinner at parent´s house and went back home early. Anyway this year I wasn´t very pleaseant with Christmas parties, I have not put even traditional decoration (less work). Have to cal, you this days mate, have to find the correct moment.

Happy New year everybody


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 1 January 2010, 11:12:57
nice flashlight... :D
yep, being an '80s guy myself I still have a pair of boots somewhere hidden... hihi (and I saw some pretty ones last week in the 'Marlboro Classics' shop)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: FACman on 1 January 2010, 14:55:44
Spent the night quietly at home with Mary watching classic 'Twilight Zone episodes marathon on TV, retired early.
As a 60's kinda guy, I have never owned a pair of cowboy boots...LOL  8)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 1 January 2010, 17:08:46
You do look kind of grumpy in your pic.  Rattler.  Had enough of Spain already?   :P


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 1 January 2010, 17:25:02
I'm just curious,  what do you all think of women who go to bars or pubs by themselves?  What are your impressions when you see a woman in one by herself?  Any of these apply?

1.  She's out to get laid or is looking for a man or a one night stand.

2.  She must be lonely and needs some company

3.  She must be a tramp

4.  She's a very independent woman, good for her.

5.  She's just passing through and is probably just thirsty.

6.  She wants to be alone and just spend some time by herself.

7.  None of my business

8.  Perhaps I should try my luck/make a move? 

Or something else comes to mind?



Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: FACman on 1 January 2010, 18:39:42
I cannot remember the last time I was in a bar/pub, as a child of the 60's they are/were rarely on my itinerary. Personally, it would be none of my business and I wish him/her success in finding whatever it is he/she seeks.  hatsoff


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Solideo on 2 January 2010, 07:01:45
Jilly I bet for number 7. Usually when I go for a pub I go for drinking. Of course there is a natural rule associated to the increase of spirits you drink, it says something like this in Spanish "No hay mujeres feas sino copas de menos" (There are no ugly women but few spirits you have drunk", so as much you drink evil little head becomes chief of your thoughts.

But early times, I don´t give a s**** about what a bird is doing alone over there, 5-6 rums later I still don´t care, simply think if she is reacheble. (This is one of my new years propositions, to be clerer than I was). Unfortunately I don´t use to go to pubs. hdbng


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 2 January 2010, 08:06:27
As I am haning out in bars all the time I have my reasons to be there: To drink coffee, to read the news paper, to run into people I know or don´t, to have some conversation, or just to ponder about my next turns in the MBX... At night, to have a few and talk to ppl I meet there (most bars have their regulars and you get to know them over time).

As I also think everybody thinks like me, I would guess that would be the same for any solo lady there also. It iwll always be a friendly hello should she greet, from there you get your signals, as from any guy: I might talk to her if she signals she is looking for conversation, I will leave her alone if she signals whe wants to ponder about something, generally, my attitude to her would be that like towards any other male guest (of cause, we have lonely tourists here sometimes which changes the equation a little, being a bachelor I´d be double checking your #8  ;D).

This said I cannot really chose any of the points in your list (but can exclude 1, 2 and 3) as I do not find anything special about an unaccompanied woman turning up in the bar or pub really.

Rattler



Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 2 January 2010, 16:36:42
That's very interesting you guys.  Thanks for your input.  I've only ventured into to a pub alone once,( in London), and that was because I was meeting a friend there.  It makes me feel uncomfortable,  but only because,  as soon as I go into one,  I get the looks,  heads turn my way.  But this happens every time without fail, sometimes even if I'm with other women friends as well.  

In the end I guess it depends on the pub or bar you go to,  some are used to local women going in regularly,  others, perhaps in the rougher areas of towns and cities,  women just wouldn't venture in to,  or she may get more than she bargained for.  

Having said that,  it would be a good experiment,  to go to as many bars or pubs as possible alone, in different areas, and maybe in different countries, just to see what the reaction would be and what would happen.  Just for homework purposes you understand  ;)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 2 January 2010, 18:23:27
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I get the looks,  heads turn my way


don't say that doesn't feel good  :congrats:


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Solideo on 2 January 2010, 19:22:48
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I get the looks,  heads turn my way


don't say that doesn't feel good  :congrats:


LOOOOOOOOOOOL , re Looooooooool anr more LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 2 January 2010, 19:57:24
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I get the looks,  heads turn my way


don't say that doesn't feel good  :congrats:


Honestly, koen.  It makes me feel self conscious. 

When I first moved to the UK, as a kid,  I was one of the very few people of color in town, and I always got the looks.  And as I got older,  I kept on getting the looks.  For different reasons, possibly though.  ;)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 2 January 2010, 20:24:21
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I get the looks,  heads turn my way


don't say that doesn't feel good  :congrats:


Honestly, koen.  It makes me feel self conscious. 

When I first moved to the UK, as a kid,  I was one of the very few people of color in town, and I always got the looks.  And as I got older,  I kept on getting the looks.  For different reasons, possibly though.  ;)


don't get me wrong, I wasn't talking about any racial-colour issue but only the female/long-hair/curves....hmmmm...dark skin...long black hair....female curves...wooha.... :congrats:


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 2 January 2010, 20:30:21
Yes,  I'm sure the curves help lol.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 2 January 2010, 22:53:52
-snip- I've only ventured into to a pub alone once,( in London), and that was because I was meeting a friend there.  It makes me feel uncomfortable,  but only because,  as soon as I go into one,  I get the looks,  heads turn my way.  But this happens every time without fail, sometimes even if I'm with other women friends as well. -snip-  

Jilly, maybe it is lack of experience then, as *I*, when I enter a pub for the first time (whatever pub), also get the looks, heads turn, etc. ... (but probably turn back with a little more disgusted expresion than after having seen you  >:(), that *is* what happens in pubs (if you are not one of the residnent drunks):

"Oh, lets see, a break in the dull routine, someobody comes in..., a face I have never seen before? Who is he?" (Incousciously the thread goes on "Dangerous? Profitable? Neutral? Ignorable")...

Normal.

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 3 January 2010, 00:08:04
Um...Rattler,  I worked in the West End of London.  Huge pubs, with strangers coming in day and night. 


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Solideo on 3 January 2010, 06:56:53
Jilly, do whatever you like and think if you don´t look for strangers sights, you won´t see them. I mean, go on yourself and will not notice if they look at you, but if you are desirable ...and don´t wanna be into a luxury seek and destroy term, just wear a burka (LOOL)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 3 January 2010, 07:06:28
-snip- but if you are desirable ...and don´t wanna be into a luxury seek and destroy term, just wear a burka (LOOL)

...and I am sure, then not one  head will turn towards you... ROFL!

Rattler!


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 3 January 2010, 14:01:32
..and don´t wanna be into a luxury seek and destroy term, just wear a burka (LOOL)



Now that would really draw attention to myself.  I'd rather just try and blend into the background, thanks.

Mind you if I WAS looking for attention, I'd walk into the bar wearing this  ;)

(http://product-images.paidonresults.net/1/632801-400x400.jpg)





Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 3 January 2010, 14:19:05
..and don´t wanna be into a luxury seek and destroy term, just wear a burka (LOOL)



Now that would really draw attention to myself.  I'd rather just try and blend into the background, thanks.

Mind you if I WAS looking for attention, I'd walk into the bar wearing this  ;)

([url]http://product-images.paidonresults.net/1/632801-400x400.jpg[/url])

if you would wear that we will turn our heads but you don't want to hear our comments... hihi





Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 3 January 2010, 19:18:32
..and don´t wanna be into a luxury seek and destroy term, just wear a burka (LOOL)



Now that would really draw attention to myself.  I'd rather just try and blend into the background, thanks.

Mind you if I WAS looking for attention, I'd walk into the bar wearing this  ;)

([url]http://product-images.paidonresults.net/1/632801-400x400.jpg[/url])

That is you? Lots of heels! Let´s for a second seriously assume that that was your idea (to draw turned heads), would you dare? Not that I´d mind or think bad of you, might even find it impressive (in my photographer profession often went into a normal bar in gala outfit during a break, living with the ladies turned heads and the guys jealous glows), just wondering.

The Spanish are more practical: Every morning of JAN 1, there is a market outside the discos after 0700, where the gals and guys can get more comfortable, exchaning high heels for simple fluffy "slippers" (usually pink), it is a pity I could find no vids, they were sooooo great on the news JAN 1!  :D

(http://www.superslippers.co.uk/slippersimages/fluffyslippers.jpg)

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 3 January 2010, 19:19:08
I'm sure I'd get some comments if I wore that, koen.   hihi



Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 3 January 2010, 19:21:05
No that's not me,  Rattler.  8)

I'd have trouble walking in those shoes lol.  I'm  a hiking girl.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 3 January 2010, 19:28:36
Let's discuss this concept of SOULMATES.

Quote:  A soulmate is somebody with whom one has a feeling of deep and natural affinity, love, intimacy, sexuality, spirituality, and/or compatibility. A related concept is that of the twin flame or twin soul – which is thought to be the ultimate soulmate, the one and only other half of one's soul, for which all souls are driven to find and join.



Does the above sound like a good description of what a soulmate means to you?  Apart from Rattler, (who already has a soul mate),  would you say that you have come across your own soulmate as yet?  Do you think you ever will?  Do you even believe in this concept?   


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 3 January 2010, 19:35:52
wasnt finished, see the EDIT.

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 3 January 2010, 19:43:00
Let's discuss this concept of SOULMATES.- snip- Apart from Rattler -snip-, would you say that you have come across your own soulmate as yet?  Do you think you ever will?  Do you even believe in this concept?

Ok, as a a ladies wish is my command always, I will keep away from this discussion until it becomes unbearable... :)

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 3 January 2010, 19:59:33
Rattler,  you are not exempt from this discussion.   You can probably tell us a lot about what it's like having a soulmate,  from your personal experience.

I do believe in the concept,  but I think most people never do or ever will find their soulmate,  so far,  I haven't found mine.  But then again,  I have been busy with other things....  just surviving being one of them.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 3 January 2010, 20:14:50
This is more my style of 'shoe'.  Good for the Canadian winters:         waa

 (http://timculleyphotography.com/userfiles/Modelling_1/1--Legs-and-Boots-internet.jpg)



Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 3 January 2010, 20:45:44
Rattler,  you are not exempt from this discussion.   You can probably tell us a lot about what it's like having a soulmate,  from your personal experience.

I truely think I can, but I will wait for others to state their POV, just let me state there is not necessarily only *one* from my POV.

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 3 January 2010, 22:22:50
I disagree,  Rattler.  There is only *one* soulmate for all of us.  And most of us will never mind that person.  If you feel that you have many or quite a few,  you are confusing what a 'soulmate' is to a 'good friend'.  There's a big difference.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: FACman on 4 January 2010, 00:49:19
I don't know if Im qualified to speak of soulmates, but I can say that on more than a few occasions a week, Mary and I will finish each others thoughts or respond to what the other is thinking without prompting. It happens far to often to be coincidence in my opinion. I suspect Rupert Shelldrake may be on to something, but I shall leave that to greater intellect than I can profess to explain.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 4 January 2010, 02:58:02
FACman,  you're as qualified as anyone else to talk of soulmates.

I'm not even sure there is such a thing,  I've never personally seen or felt it.  But people do talk about it.  Intellect has nothing to do with it,  I reckon it is more profound then that.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 4 January 2010, 03:44:34
37 things you should never apologize for (and why).

1. Never apologize for acting on your instincts. Listening to your body – then taking action on what you hear – is the hallmark of heroic people.

2. Never apologize for all the tears you’ve cried. Crying cleanses the soul. Shoot for once a month. Even if it’s just a brief mist at a tender moment in a sad movie.

3. Never apologize for anything in your portfolio. If you feel the need to do so, it probably doesn’t belong in your portfolio in the first place.

4. Never apologize for asking for what you need. The answer to every question you DON’T ask is always no.

5. Never apologize for asking questions. When you stop asking questions, you don’t just run out of answers – you run out of hope.

6. Never apologize for asserting yourself. The word “assert” comes from the Latin asserere, which means, “to claim, maintain or affirm.” And that’s exactly what you’re entitled to: Your opinion. Your belief. Your say. Let nobody take it away from you.

7. Never apologize for being a health nut. Next time someone says, “What are you, on a diet or something?” look them straight in the eye and say, “Yeah – you got a problem with that?” Then, when they back down, you go right back to eating your tofu.

8. Never apologize for being a newbie. Everyone great chess master was once a beginner.

9. Never apologize for following your heart, whereever that may lead.

10. Never apologize for being funny. The world is too damn serious. We need you. Seriously.

11. Never apologize for being human. Once you do, you’re no longer human – you’re a cyborg.

12. Never apologize for being passionate. Unless you’re passionate about stabbing strangers with broken Coke bottles.

13. Never apologize for being smart. That’s the ONE thing the government, the media (and every other entity that’s trying to control you) is terrified of: Smart people who take action. Be one of those people.

14. Never apologize for being the age that you are. It’s just a number. “A chicken ain’t nothing but a bird,” as my Grandpa likes to say.

15. Never apologize for breaking a rule that isn’t really a rule. Be proud of yourself for being a rule breaker. Then go break another one.

16. Never apologize for calling BS on someone. Especially when nobody else is the room is going to do it and this person REALLY needs to be taken to task.

17. Never apologize for demanding respect. If you’ve demonstrated that you deserve respect by giving it to others first, you’re good to go.

18. Never apologize for disagreeing. Especially if you do so respectfully. On the other hand, if you’re disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing, or because of your pathological need to be right, that’s a different story.

19. Never apologize for expressing yourself. That’s all “leadership” is: The full, free expression of your truth. Don’t say you’re sorry for that.

20. Never apologize for falling in love. Your heart’s calling the shots.

21. Never apologize for falling OUT of love. Your heart’s still calling the shots – even when you throw up an air ball.

22. Never apologize for getting something off your chest. That which you suppress will find a home in your body. And then it will trash the place.

23. Never apologize for giving it your best shot. As my Grandpa also reminds me, “You do the best you can with as many as you can.”

24. Never apologize for growing up privileged. As long as you scrap the entitlement attitude, remain grateful for everything you’ve ever been given and respect the life situation of those who are less fortunate, it’s all good.

25. Never apologize for having an overabundance of love in your life. Instead, circulate what you’ve got. Pay it forward. Share it. People need it. Especially St. Louis Rams fans. God we suck.

26. Never apologize for lack of experience. Instead, share your Learning Plan; demonstrate your dedication to lifelong learning and practice becoming the world’s expert at learning from your experiences.

27. Never apologize for lack of information. Ignorance is acceptable. Staying ignorant, however, is stupid.

28. Never apologize for liking stupid movies. Movie snobs annoy me. Some of my favorite movies are among the most ridiculous films ever made. So I love Road House. Sue me.

29. Never apologize for living your truth. Few things in the world are more important.

30. Never apologize for looking out for yourself. Self-preservation is a primary driver of human behavior. It’s how we’re wired.

31. Never apologize for loving yourself. If you do, you probably don’t love yourself as much as you thought.

32. Never apologize for making a decision from the heart. Remember: It’s not thee truth – it’s YOUR truth.

33. Never apologize for needing alone time. Solitude is soil. Solitude is medicine. And if you don’t get your fix every day, your life will suffer.

34. Never apologize for having to grow up poor,  it builds character.

35. Never apologize for not being there when someone called. You have a life, too. People can’t expect you to wait eagerly by the phone all hours of the day.

36. Never apologize for not embracing someone else’s agenda. Especially if that agenda robs you of your true talent.

37. Never apologize for occasional absentmindedness. Everyone’s brain farts.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 4 January 2010, 15:08:38
Jilly, my list is much shorter:

1. Never apologize for something you did in good faith (with the exception of...):

2. Always apologize for having hurt someone unintentionally.

No need for long lists if you follow an ethical system (and the lists will always miss a situation anyway).

This said, there are some funny/disputable ones in your list:

Quote
- 5. Never apologize for asking questions. When you stop asking questions, you don’t just run out of answers – you run out of hope.

Indeed, my take is "there are no stupid questions, there are only stupid answers"

Quote
7. -snip- Then, when they back down, you go right back to eating your tofu.

ROFL, OK with me though I won´t touch it (anymore).

Quote
11. Never apologize for being human. Once you do, you’re no longer human – you’re a cyborg.

Does this imply that I would have to apologize for being an alien/cyborg?

Quote
17. Never apologize for demanding respect.

BS from my POV. Respect is *earned* (and credited), not demanded, in my book.

Quote
35. Never apologize for not being there when someone called. You have a life, too. People can’t expect you to wait eagerly by the phone all hours of the day.

I beg to differ: If you wanted to and dint make it, see my system above, do not apologize. If you offered that (and even if it was just implicitly) got asked and were not there, shame on you. Same actually on the author, because his interpretaion is all but malevolant.

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 4 January 2010, 15:30:16
How do you earn respect from the new recruits who you are in command of?  You don't.  You have to demand it.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 4 January 2010, 15:32:20
How do you earn respect from the new recruits who you are in command of?  You don't.  You have to demand it.

No.

"Demand"? On what basis? Because you have the means to apply pressure (like: "Say another word and I have you arrested!" - Alternatively, outside army: "Say that again, and I will ruin your career!")? I assure you you won´t get respect from those guys *that* way... Means of pressure are fine (and you should never be afraid to use them to get the one whacko in your class/group/troop under control if you cannot do otherwise - but this should *absolutely* be the last resort and probably means you have failed to *earn* respect earlier).

I have done instructor in various jobs through my time in and out the army, the latter with recruits out of basic training (and entering on red carpet myself!), you still have to earn it: The stars/stripes won´t  get it all by themselves, and usually it is the first 2-4 hours where you lay the base, I won´t reveal my methods here, but I am sure about the substanc: Respect is given (and not demanded: Demand all you want if you don´t earn it, the only consequence is that you will end up being seen ridiculous), at first moment it might be credited voluntarily because of your status/rank, but then, because you earn it, if you do not prove your  are respect worthy it is lost on others (as in school, actually, try and remember the teachers that you respected and the ones you didnt, I am sure all wanted you to respect them, but towards one you gave respect because they - from your POV - had earned it, to others not...! And I am also sure you always first offered and were ready to give respect in the first class you met them, just because they wore the "teacher" plaquard...).

Respect will only be awarded to a personality, not to a plaquard, it is a credit thing that comes with a hypotheque, you either comply or don´t, but, as towards your bank, you cannot "demand" it, you can either "confirm" or "lose" it.

Let us take it to another extreme to show what I mean: Your husband, just because being married to you, from starters has a respect credit with you, but then, during the matrimonie´s years, he will either earn (confirm) it or you will lose it towards him, howevermuch he might demand it you might well end up seeing a clown when you look at him (and reverse, of cause).

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 4 January 2010, 17:35:04
Hmm...that's what happens when you take just a part of what is written and try and make it into something else.  Now let's see,  here's the whole again:

17. Never apologize for demanding respect. If you’ve demonstrated that you deserve respect by giving it to others first, you’re good to go.

 (although there is never any guarantee of  receiving it, sometimes no matter what you do).  
 

Take in the bolded  part as well, Rattler.

I DO disagree with having to earn the respect of new recruits,  how will you get them to follow all your orders when you haven't had a chance to *earn* their respect.?  In some cases  respect has to be demanded or it could be very detrimental to the larger group,  especially in combat.   Okay,  I've never been in that situation, but it seems like common sense to me.  I think FACman and others would be the best to comment on this one.



Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 4 January 2010, 18:49:41
Jilly, you are mixing authority with respect, methinks. As commander I have the authority to give orders (and can demand they be followed), be it with or without my guys respecting me (though I will have it a lot easier if they do).

Re: Your bolded section: 1st: Even when and if you have "demonstrated that you deserve it" you cannot *demand* respect. 2nd: You do not demonstrate that you deserve respect "by giving it to others first" (though showing respect where due is well wrothwile, and doing so in front of others is good for their learning), it is usually fairly small things that earn you respect that do not even necessarily have to do with the field you are working in.

Anyway, all said from my side now, let others chime in.

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 4 January 2010, 19:04:36
Jilly, don't go into 'overkill'...give us time to discuss your 1st statement/question before starting a 2nd one  smallstop


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 4 January 2010, 19:10:49
No mixing of authority and respect here, Ratter.  There were teachers in school that nobody liked, but they HAD TO respect their authority. You see there's more than one way of looking at this.

 
btw,  Rattler,  there was no need to get personal in your previous post.  It just shows desperation of a lack of an argument on your part.

okay,  koen, I hear you,  I'll stop here.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 4 January 2010, 19:14:35
No mixing of authority and respect here, Ratter.  There were teachers in school that nobody liked, but they HAD TO respect their authority. You see there's more than one way of looking at this.

 
btw,  Rattler,  there was no need to get personal in your previous post.  It just shows desperation of a lack of an argument on your part.

okay,  koen, I hear you,  I'll stop here.


nobody told you to stop girlie...you should know better  :congrats:...I just wanted to reply to the first question but the 2nd was already asked and replied to....that's all


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 4 January 2010, 21:18:10
-snip ...btw,  Rattler,  there was no need to get personal in your previous post. -snip-

Ooops, sorry if I did, but what are you refering to? I revisted my post and cannot find anything that would qualify as personal attack, I think it was argumentative throughout? Just curious to evade future incidents...

Jilly, you are mixing authority with respect, methinks. As commander I have the authority to give orders (and can demand they be followed), be it with or without my guys respecting me (though I will have it a lot easier if they do).

Re: Your bolded section: 1st: Even when and if you have "demonstrated that you deserve it" you cannot *demand* respect. 2nd: You do not demonstrate that you deserve respect "by giving it to others first" (though showing respect where due is well wrothwile, and doing so in front of others is good for their learning), it is usually fairly small things that earn you respect that do not even necessarily have to do with the field you are working in.

Anyway, all said from my side now, let others chime in.

This said, I apologize if I did or said something that might be received/understood as a personal attack, it surely was not intended as such, trying to make my case.  :congrats:

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 4 January 2010, 21:28:36
That's not what I meant.  But never mind, just forget it.

Some flowers for you too  :)   .......>   :congrats:


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Mike on 20 January 2010, 19:38:02
Hey guys, i hope everybody is doing fine?


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 20 January 2010, 21:00:16
Hey guys, i hope everybody is doing fine?


hey Mike, all fine here, busy busy at work....how are you doing? did you meat some nice nurses lately?  hihi


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Mike on 22 January 2010, 01:53:13
hehehe yeah i met a few, but they all had boyfriends  ;D i swear to god every nice girl i meet is taken :p


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 22 January 2010, 17:18:25
Hi Mike,  long time no see.  Keeping looking, she will turn up.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 24 January 2010, 21:20:24
am I excused to go personal, private and soft?

without telling a pages long story about the past I would like to share/discuss some personal thoughts

I'm a thinker, I think too much...I even have to take pills to stop brainactivity when I go to sleep or else I go crazy...
And I'm a go'er...every time I start a job I go for it 200%...even to far...further than I can walk...more that I can take..

this has everything to do with how I was raised...I was never good enough...always 2nd behind my brother...and my mother was a nervous wreck with all kinds of sicknesses and pills...so, as some of you know, I need confirmation...
luckily enough I found Karine who helped me ALOT in changing myself into an acceptable me....not curing, there are no pills....but living differently....more selftrust....and realising what my pros and contras are...

more and more I start to feel that I'm less strong than I want, less stressfree than I wish and too much perfectionist for most works...

so when I look at my present job I doubt...is this job fitted for me? last week was hell, as you might know I'm responsable for the 'parts' in a garage.
we have 2 brands, a repair-workshop and a body-workshop.
2 brands means 2 seperate ways to work at the same time, PC programmes are totally different which makes it very tough...
2 shops means that I have to give parts to around 10 people and do the management of the warehouse and...well....I start to feel it's too much for me, certainly when you want to do it right...
last guy was fired because he didn't move from his chair and I think that finally I would be doing the same...there's so much paperwork and computerwork that it's impossible to keep doing what I've been doing the last/first months....working as 2
last week the woman-boss her husband started to help me but I'm not sure this will solve it all...

until the end of March I work under weekcontracts and I start to wonder what to do.

again change job?
when I do what should I look for?
something less stressful? maybe stop challenging myself?
just take an easier job?

I know that you can't answer my questions but I wanted to share my thoughts and well....talking about it makes it easier...


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Mad Russian on 26 January 2010, 05:26:42
TALK TO YOUR NEW BOSS!!! See what they think of how it is going and how  you feel it is going.

Good Hunting.

MR


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 26 January 2010, 17:36:15
koen,  I do understand you.  Mostly because from what you write  I see similarities in myself.  I think a lot of how you are stems from childhood experiences.  (You probably already know this).   And if you have a brain, and an intelligent one, those experiences can affect us in a more profound way, because we can annalize them and see just how wrong they were, now as well as back then.

It's really good that you have Karine in your life, someone who understands you.  In that way we are the lucky ones, we found someone, either in our past or now, who can (at least to some extent), help us take the less destructive route in life.  It can be a life saver.

My advice to you would be to do what you really want to do, and what makes you happy.  I know you have talked about travel in the past, maybe that is what you need?  If you can afford to take a year off and do that,  it will make you see many thing differently, but do it in a way that it starts at the grass roots.  By that I mean, not in a 'touristy' way, but the real thing.  Experience each place and see what you can learn from it.

Try not to get too stressed out with the little things in life,  they will pass.  Life is just full of ups and downs, and nothing, but nothing, ever stays the same.  Be true to yourself, and follow your heart. 

PM me, if you need to talk further.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 26 January 2010, 18:33:06
I thought I had sent that, but doesn´t seem to be the case...

We have a saying in Spain, along the following  lines:

- Problems with your work? Boss problem...

- Problems with your work in the next job, or: 2nd time: Interesting...

- Problems with your work 3rd time, start thinking! (i.e. meaning to say: *Your* problem)...

I recall your elogies about your new job, as well as your issues with the old one, it seems you are always up to the same thingy after some time? Maybe double check your takes?

Wednesday last week was a very confusing day for me....

I felt very bizar at work....panic...walls coming closer...no way out....until I faded out a couple of times...black spots...

I was so crazy to continue working until 7PM.

Went to the doctor that evening....belly all swolen up [correct English?]...

went to the clinic on monday where they 'abused' me twice from behind...once with a laxation tube and once with a camera-cable...

tuesday was another visit to the clinic...and again...hop they went in....again with a tube with fluid and air to give the external camera some better shots...

just imagine how I felt...3 penetrations and a night on the toilet in 12 hours!

clinical conclusion: no sickness

back to the doctor: well Koen, as I thought...too much air in your abdomen bowel (?), how?

probably hyperventilation due to panic...caused by the workpressure....too long too much...

I've been telling them for the last 6 months...guys, it's too much...do something about the problems at work...I can't take this much longer....
I phoned 1 of my bosses and gave him some hints about the why's of my current problem...he didn't get it...

This all made me think....alot... I made myself 1 promise for 2009...take care of my health...

So I need to do something... I'm currently, since last week wednesday, on sickleave and should restart on monday.

But when I even think off going back I start to panic and hyperventilate...not a good sign.

I'm carefully looking for a new job....even sent a letter to the Dutch Land forces to see if they want me...crazy idea...a 39-year old Belgian applying in Holland for military career...we'll see...
K


I'll give you some ideas:

he comments on:

the noise I make walking up and down the stairs...
the coffee machine MUST be filled each time with 1/2 a bag...not less...not more
coffee must be served in white cup for men, red cup for women, sugar/cookie/milk have their correct locations on the tray
he has a problem with us using colours when writing
the . on a i has to be a . and NOT a °
830 is not the same as 8.30 and definitely not 8,30...we can only use 8.30

and so on...


0600hr this morning awake as a fresh chicken in the chickenshed...

worry worry....thinking hard and deep...what should I do? (when I get the chance ofcourse)

the gain in freetime/less work hours/evening hours is more valuable then the small loss in paycheck

there's ofcourse the high-tech exciting environment (Audi) of one job compared to the boring work of the new one

but with the new job I'm quite my own boss with the rules very clear (food) and only 1 boss to report to compared to an autistic boss with several instancies checking us out 24/24 7/7 (Audi).

there's the loss of a company's car (Audi) but with the new distance of 6km.'s I don't really need one...except for the weekends ofcourse.....

ah...we'll see...tomorrow I have to call him to tell him if I agree with the pay and how long I need to stay with the present company.


today was a great day...I said STOP to pissing on my head...no more shit stuffing on my shoulders...ENOUGH is ENOUGH

the last 2 weeks I had to keep the firm open and running...

telephone...fax....planning....clients....technicians....E V E R Y T H I N G....and today the boss was back...

man...after almost 3 years I confronted him with HIS acts and attitude....wooowwww...what a relieve to say what I wanted to say...

the problem with people who have problems in their 'head' are that they don't realise it...the whole world is against them but who's to blame? the WORLD!

in 1 year they lost 2 people at the desk....who's to blame? them!
he has problems at different locations with different people? THEY are to blame...

never he/they look into the mirror...always there's something else to blame..............

we'll see what happens...he said he will fire the 'scumbag' next to him (ME) and I said he should do what he thinks what's the best for him...

and for sure....I won't feel sad...done ALL that I could...

this means I'm not so into HEAVY discussions or matters at the moment....


Rattler



Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 27 January 2010, 17:59:01
old and new one are not the same, neither the job description or the environment

yes, I do have a problem (as most people have)...I can't go to work just to do my hours...I'm motivated...I want to do it well....professional...

since monday I have an aid, the bosses husband....he does the easiest things but it saves me time so it's ok for me...

I must admit that my female boss does listen to my grieves and comments...GO GO GO


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 27 January 2010, 18:02:00
koen,  I do understand you.  Mostly because from what you write  I see similarities in myself.  I think a lot of how you are stems from childhood experiences.  (You probably already know this).   And if you have a brain, and an intelligent one, those experiences can affect us in a more profound way, because we can annalize them and see just how wrong they were, now as well as back then.

It's really good that you have Karine in your life, someone who understands you.  In that way we are the lucky ones, we found someone, either in our past or now, who can (at least to some extent), help us take the less destructive route in life.  It can be a life saver.

My advice to you would be to do what you really want to do, and what makes you happy.  I know you have talked about travel in the past, maybe that is what you need?  If you can afford to take a year off and do that,  it will make you see many thing differently, but do it in a way that it starts at the grass roots.  By that I mean, not in a 'touristy' way, but the real thing.  Experience each place and see what you can learn from it.

Try not to get too stressed out with the little things in life,  they will pass.  Life is just full of ups and downs, and nothing, but nothing, ever stays the same.  Be true to yourself, and follow your heart. 

PM me, if you need to talk further.


well, I'm always busy but mostly it's a kind of work I'm doing....even when posting and researching stuff for WaT it's some kind of work....the brain is active etc...

I really need to re-start 'running', 'bicycle-biking' and maybe perhaps 'bike-biking'....

enjoying without thinking.....RELAXING  :congrats:


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 27 January 2010, 22:30:45
Sometimes that's the only thing to do, Koen.  Mindless physical stuff,  can be very therapeutic.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 2 February 2010, 21:31:29
koen,  I like your sigline.  I was going to make one that said:  'don't hate me just because I'm beautiful',  but I didn't want to look like a show off!   ;)

I'm a little pissed off today,  there's some business I needed sorted out by springtime and it looks like it won't a happen until August.  I don't like waiting!  But then again, who does?



Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 2 February 2010, 21:34:21
And then,  I need to make a trip to the UK at some point in time, to see my mom.  Actually  I need to go and live there for 2 or 3 years, to sort other stuff out.  It's a long story.  Just as well I'll be free to do that by then...


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: FACman on 3 February 2010, 15:29:19
On saturday morning I shall return to Ar-kansas for a couple of weeks, but it shall be a sad journey for me, even though I shall see my Halfside Mary. Our dog 'Koda' (friend in Lakota language) has been having troubles walking on his right front leg for several months now, due to a breakdown and loss of cartilage in his paw. Now he has been found to have cancer as well, it has already metasticized and is in his lungs. So it shall be farewell for our son of 11 years as we send him to the otherside. He is by far, the greatest four legged koda I have ever known and I thank Grandfather for gifting me with such as he.
 
Koda's story will remain one of great fondness for me until the end of my days. He was brought to the Vets shop where Mary worked one night after hours, to be euthanized  due to malnourishment and dehydration. Animal control officers had found him as a puppy on the edge of survival. The night tech saw it differently, she immediately inserted a catheter and started pumping in fluids and started feeding him. By next morning, he was a rambunctious, yet still weak, puppy. When Mary got to work that morning she fell in love with him immediately and brought him home with her that night. Since I got home later than she that night, I arrived home to find a sheepish looking Mary standing outside the back door, not something she usually does. As I got out of my truck she opened the door and out bounded this bundle of energy, eager to make my acquaintance. Mary said she could take him back if I didnt want to keep him, but Grandfather had other plans for us.

The little fellow would go to work with Mary in the morning, where she would spend her breaks giving him the love and attention he had missed in his young life. Since I got off work earlier than her, I would stop by on the way home and pick up our 'son' from doggie day care, and spend the next couple of hours working on training him. The very first day I brought him home, he proved to be an apt and willing pupil for he was sitting upon command by the end of our first session. The next day, he learned to lie down and the day after that, he learned to talk. He was always eager to please and loved the games of fetch and hide and seek immensely.

When we moved to Newman Lake, we found that he loved being in the water. Even in winter with the lake frozen he would claw at the ice trying to get to that which he knew was there. While at the lake, Mary and I had the opportunity to do wildlife rehab and through it all, Koda was the surrogate brother to all the squirrels, Crows and Ravens that came through our household. It was especially funny to throw a ball and watch this big  Rottweiler run to get it, with a Crow, Raven or Duck on his tail trying to beat him to the prize (which they never did as fetch was Koda's game) We had a domestic white duck that we had to raise one year and that may have been Koda's best friend ever. I have attached a pic of them together. They were inseparable until we found a home with a pond and other Ducks for our feathered ward.

So it shall be a melancholy visit for me this time around...



(http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww278/sgtfaust/th_adogandhisduck.jpg) (http://s727.photobucket.com/albums/ww278/sgtfaust/?action=view&current=adogandhisduck.jpg)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 3 February 2010, 18:16:46
What a lovely dog, and what nice memories you have of him FACman.  It is sad when you have to let something you love so much, go.  But at least he had you and Mary all those years and you had him,  so that is good.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 3 February 2010, 18:52:52
man's best friend


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: TechAdmin on 3 February 2010, 20:53:36
-snip- Our dog 'Koda' (friend in Lakota language) has been having troubles walking on his right front leg for several months now, due to a breakdown and loss of cartilage in his paw. Now he has been found to have cancer as well, it has already metasticized and is in his lungs. So it shall be farewell for our son of 11 years as we send him to the otherside. -snip-

FACMan, my friend, I cannot be of much help. Just that you know, though, for one "Koda" that has to go, another is going to arrive!

Life´s weird co-incidences (and now try and tell me again this here village is not magic!), without even knowing what the name meant in whatever language, one of the 7 sons of my dog "Locke" ("Curl" in German, for that stange curl of hair on his forehead), we just named him "Koda" (just on behalf of the wish of the 5 yrs old son of his new owner). NOTE, there is no meaning to the word at all in Spanisch, it is a pure random (?) alignement of letters from our POV...

He is now four month old, and here in the village. Timid for starrters, he is now picking up and making friends with everybody, puppy... . If you wish (and it would be a pleasure to do so), I can keep you updated on his development, the picture (he is the one with the head sticking out, 2nd from left) is from the day two month ago (56 days old then) that we named him:

Koda:
(http://www.warandtactics.com/Images/matt_st_dec09/los_otros.jpg)

The father, "Locke":
(http://ohlmer.es/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/locke_scr-285x400.jpg)

Kindest regards,

TA



Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: FACman on 4 February 2010, 07:47:09
Our Koda was also quite timid early on, but as his confidence grew, so did his circle of friends.

Below a pic of a Dog & his Duck swimming laps, they would do this for hours at a time.


(http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww278/sgtfaust/th_swimminglaps-1.jpg) (http://s727.photobucket.com/albums/ww278/sgtfaust/?action=view&current=swimminglaps-1.jpg)


I am pleased to hear the story of the young Koda, please tell the owners what their dogs name means. Thanks Matt!


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 4 February 2010, 09:45:32
Roger, willco.

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 16 February 2010, 02:36:13
So,  I'm getting late going to bed.  My cat has just started having her kittens.  She managed to get pregnant before I had a chance to get her done.  Anyway, so far so good.  She has just had one so far,  will keep you posted on how it goes.  And also post some photos.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 16 February 2010, 13:42:38
I just took this one.  It's not very good, but the best I can do for now.  She had five kittens altogether:

 (http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x12/Jenvie/newkits.jpg)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 16 February 2010, 17:49:09
A more recent one.  They are all doing well and are cute as can be: 

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x12/Jenvie/kits2.jpg)

(I have changed her bedding, but it needs doing regularly, and I don't want to keep disturbing them)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Mike on 18 February 2010, 01:05:49
aaww those are some cute little guys you got there Jilly  ;D


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 18 February 2010, 07:22:53
Found in my TA work this moring that our site shows up in a google search for "facman.it", so I followed it, this is what I found:

http://www.facman.net/Facman_Classic/ (http://www.facman.net/Facman_Classic/)

Another mystery solved... :)

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 1 March 2010, 23:32:06
aaww those are some cute little guys you got there Jilly  ;D


They are cute aren't they Mike?  I have to take some new photos and post them.  They have all opened their eyes now and are getting quite adventurous.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 1 March 2010, 23:35:21
Looks like Canada has won the most Gold medals in the Winter Olympics.   ;D

Results:

(gold, silver, bronze and total)


United States 9 15 13 37

Germany 10 13 7 30

Canada 14 7 5 26

Norway 9 8 6 23

Austria 4 6 6 16

Russian Federation 3 5 7 15

Korea 6 6 2 14

China 5 2 4 11

Sweden 5 2 4 11

France 2 3 6 11

Switzerland 6 0 3 9

Well done, Canada. :)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 2 March 2010, 19:50:04
congrats  :champ:

did you see the comment of the Russian president?

it went something like this: ahum...."the people of the Russian Olympic Commity should take their responsability and make some heavy choices...if not...we'll give them a hand"  :whistle:


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 4 March 2010, 16:51:23
I love being a Canadian.  Did you know that Vancouver has (yet again) been voted the best and most livable city in the world?
 

 


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 4 March 2010, 19:49:39
I love being a Canadian.  Did you know that Vancouver has (yet again) been voted the best and most livable city in the world?


no, didn't know that...nice  :congrats:


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Rattler on 4 March 2010, 20:39:07
Canadians are viewed as about the most civilized people in the world, they only got one problem (from Bushees faction POV, of cause):

http://www.satirewire.com/news/feb02/warship.shtml (http://www.satirewire.com/news/feb02/warship.shtml)

Rattler


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 5 March 2010, 00:00:10
Koen......>   urock

(can't find the flower icon)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 5 March 2010, 00:01:49
Rattler,  well,  I'm certainly very civilized doncha know  :P

btw, Rattler,  you are not checking your PM's on the HANG forum lately.  Perhaps you don't have them set up right?


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Mike on 10 March 2010, 16:46:51
Yeah canada is cool, still have some distant relatives over there. My greatgrandfather was a Belgian canadian (or how that you call it) But came to Belgium just before the World war. But some of his children stayed. maybe one day i'll move to there to. its certainly way up my list of countries were i might move to.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 2 June 2010, 19:17:22
Well,  if you any of you ever do come to  Canada,  I hope you'll find the time to visit.

My latest news is that I'm probably moving to the City come late summer.  For work and school purposes.  It's not a permanent move,  just for the one year.  It should be interesting.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 4 July 2010, 21:11:45
Have a good 4th July, Americans!

Well,  1st July was Canada day,  here are some pics from then:

deleted on request


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: MontyB on 5 July 2010, 01:36:01
Have a good 4th July, Americans!

Well,  1st July was Canada day,  here are some pics from then:



Hehe nice stuff, our national day is February 6th (Waitangi Day) and it is usually the national day of protest when the "natives" with very white skin and English names protest about the Europeans "oppressing" them, but it is summer and there is plenty of beer and beaches so no one really cares.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 5 July 2010, 14:18:15
It's just one big party.  Fun for the kids.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 14 July 2010, 23:21:52
Does anyone else know what they will be doing next year at all?


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 16 July 2010, 17:41:29
So,  I've been busy applying for an IOC card (booklet).  Should have it within the next 2 months.  With this, I can travel to India without ever having to apply for a visa, also gives me local rates for internal flights, hotels, entry into places like the Taj etc.  in fact the same benefits as anyone else living there permanently.  It's a life long passport of sorts.

I'm planning to go to India for the month of February.  And am aiming to be in the UK for the month of May next year. 

Does anyone else know what they will be doing next year at all?


since I bought a mobilhome I'll be travelling ALOT  hihi


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 17 July 2010, 00:33:25
Seriously, Koen?

Where abouts will you be roaming?  I hope I get to see you sometime in May,  also Rattler and anyone else who would like to meet up at the time.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 17 July 2010, 17:35:20
Seriously, Koen?

Where abouts will you be roaming?  I hope I get to see you sometime in May,  also Rattler and anyone else who would like to meet up at the time.



LINK (http://www.warandtactics.com/smf/science-technology/cars!/msg14875/#msg14875)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 24 August 2010, 01:45:29
Koen,  I'm a little confused.  Does this mean that you will live permanently in the mobile home?  Or is it just for traveling?  Looks real nice though.  :)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 24 August 2010, 01:51:33
I spent a few days on a trip to New York City,  here are a couple of photos  of it:
 
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x12/Jenvie/NewYorkTrip144.jpg)


(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x12/Jenvie/NewYorkTrip134.jpg)

Boston:

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x12/Jenvie/NewYorkTrip059-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 26 August 2010, 20:34:37
Koen,  I'm a little confused.  Does this mean that you will live permanently in the mobile home?  Or is it just for traveling?  Looks real nice though.  :)


only for travelling, we had an enjoyable week in Germany

https://www.romantischestrasse.de/?lang=uk (https://www.romantischestrasse.de/?lang=uk)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 20 September 2010, 20:07:42
One year anniversary.  On September 4th I had officially been a member of WaT for one whole year! 


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 20 September 2010, 20:09:25
One year anniversary.  On September 4th I had officially been a member of WaT for one whole year! 



(http://www.fopshop.nl/webFoto/large/groep96/Traffic-sign-1-year-older-and-still-sexy.jpg)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 24 September 2010, 17:13:21
Thank you my friend.  :)


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Jilly on 28 September 2010, 02:55:53
My random thought right now?  I'm so glad my car   is working again.  Freedom.


Title: Re: Just random thoughts and conversation thread
Post by: Koen on 28 September 2010, 06:43:17
My random thought right now?  I'm so glad my car   is working again.  Freedom.


there you go.....back on the road again  bravoclap