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Author Topic: WWII Japanese Tanks  (Read 13389 times)
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« on: 27 February 2009, 18:02:38 »
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Colorised postcard image of Japanese tank, c1935-45.  Any help in identifying it would be much appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: 21 March 2009, 19:17:33 »
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Another postcard with another unidentified Japanese tank.  this image is even more propagandistic in the sense that it seems to commemorate a specific event and has some other nationalistic trappings in the form of the two Japanese flags in the border.
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« Reply #2 on: 20 September 2009, 17:45:40 »
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I believe it is the Type 95 Ha-Go light tank
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« Reply #3 on: 20 September 2009, 20:24:47 »
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I believe it is the Type 95 Ha-Go light tank


Looks Japanese enough, but I do not think it is a HA-GO (95) - but then, I am in no way an authority on that, ask me planes, please... Smiley :

Type 95 HA-GO has:
- two (not three) top chain suspending wheels
- suspenders between main axles
- different gun mount and rounded turret form

Type 95 HA-GO


The 2nd pic might be most probably a Type 89:

You will have to google images for "Type 89 CHI-RO": Cannot currently post the link and pic, the software censores it... Need to come on as TechAdmin to solve that prob... Stupid censoring... I never asked software to replace "~ a k i r k" with a censor smiley...

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« Reply #4 on: 21 November 2009, 20:14:39 »
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Type 92 tankette?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_92_Jyu-Sokosha
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« Reply #5 on: 25 November 2009, 07:07:38 »
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I believe it's a Type 89 OTSU.

Look at the track and wheel guards.

Only one operational Japanese tank I know of has the guard.
Of course that tank doesn't have to be operational. It could be a prototype but I'm pretty sure it's the Type 89 OTSU.

Also, look at the gun and the configuration of the support under the gun.

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« Reply #6 on: 25 November 2009, 18:28:38 »
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thank you Robert Hilton for the first picture ID and thanks to MadRussian for the ID on the 2nd picture.
I have a Japanese friend who now translates a lot of postcard captions for me; I will ask her what the 2nd postcard says and what the writing on the first tank's side says, too. (I assume it's the unit info.)
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« Reply #7 on: 26 November 2009, 04:17:21 »
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It's not good to assume. You may be surprised at what the writing says.

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« Reply #8 on: 29 November 2009, 18:35:08 »
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Over a dozen Japanese tanks on 'parade' at an unknown location on this real photo postcard.  Can someone confirm that this is a Type-97 "Chi-Ha"?
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« Reply #9 on: 30 November 2009, 05:15:35 »
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The front two tanks are both of different models. Look at the way the turret sits on the body. They are not the same tank.

Also the one on the right has a much broader body than the tank on the left.

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« Reply #10 on: 4 December 2009, 02:15:21 »
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Thanks, MR.  You know I saw that but thought it was some trick of the eye caused by the angle and distance.  the front tank on the left doesn't have the hoop-like bars around the top of the turret either.

So, the right one (and most in the background) are the Type 97 "Chi Ha".

How about Type-95 "Ha-Go" for the left one? 
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« Reply #11 on: 4 December 2009, 05:01:11 »
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The hoop like bars are radio antenna's. They are command tanks.

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« Reply #12 on: 4 December 2009, 15:18:42 »
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Thanks, MR.  You know I saw that but thought it was some trick of the eye caused by the angle and distance.  the front tank on the left doesn't have the hoop-like bars around the top of the turret either.

So, the right one (and most in the background) are the Type 97 "Chi Ha".

How about Type-95 "Ha-Go" for the left one?  


Actually, as photographer and examining again after MR´s input, I would still lean to the same impression: I think the distortions are caused by taking the pic with a +300 mm (for 24/36 that is) lens and the tanks are way much more spread out than it seems. A bit of the effect like we journos do every year with traffic jams:

A "normal" (this does not exist for a photographer, but for the public sake lets use the word) photo would look like this:



Your section head requires a traffic jam photo (because there were some)? Do this: Vhange lens to long, go far away, and "compress":



Only the trained eye will see the difference: I)n photo one the sizes of vehicles diminish rapidly, in pic 2 not (make yourself an excerpt of the horizon of pic 1 to see the effect of lens change)

I think, here it is the same: The front tanks are more or less in their correct proportions, the more distant ones are compressed and so look different (and it looks this was a glass plate camera with the front lense inclined right, as here the effect also goes to left)

This said, the difference on the turrets are probably HF or UHF antennae

EDIT: Ouch, always read a thread to the end before replying, MR had it on the head before me...

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« Reply #13 on: 4 December 2009, 16:21:07 »
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Nope....I'm a photographer too. Those two tanks are not the same.

Look at the width of the body. The one on the right has a wider body. The placement of hatches etc on the front of the hull for the two tanks is different as well.

Unless angle can put entirely different hatches on a tank then those two are not the same.

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