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« Reply #80 on: 26 January 2009, 11:01:49 »



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« Reply #81 on: 23 November 2012, 00:32:32 »

I figured I would pull a necro on this one because it seemed so final when the first post was made back in 2008 now here we are 4 years later and what has changed?

Last week we heard Israel preparing to destroy Hamas to make them "howl for peace" and today we are back to business as usual.

I am starting to think the whole Israel/Palestine thing is just a giant Nigerian scam where both sides have decided they need the war to continue so Israel can suck more money out of the USA and Hamas can fleece Iran.

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« Reply #82 on: 23 November 2012, 17:37:40 »

Actually the situation is more complicated.
Today I read this comment in the Elsevier, one of our countries best magazines by a moslim writer.


Why dont we see an Arabic spring among the Palestinians?

There is a deadly game going on in Gaza, history repeats itself.
The western media and the arabic neighbours of Israel act as if these rocket attacks and the normal Israeli response to them are world shocking and brutal.
In fact they want us to believe the situation is worse than in Syria where hundreds of people die each week.

Holy month Mohoram,

Last week dozens of people got killed by a suicide bomber attack in Afghanistan, we didnt see anything about this action in the news.
Coming weeks we can expect more such attacks in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and Pakistan because the Moharam started.
During the Moharam the Sjiets commemorate the dead of Imam Hussein.
Are we comparing the numbers of dead in Gaza to those in Syria and Afghanistan? No.... but it gives an idea how the media exagorate the events in Gaza.

Islamic Jihad
We dont know exactly why this faction ( started the rocket attacks against Israel) started the recent hostilities but there may be a good explanation for it.
Soon Hamas got involved as well, Hamas rules the Gaza strip and had to join Jihads efforts  because they would lose support if they dont.
Israel holds Hamas into account because they are the ruling party in Gaza.
The Jihad has ties with Iran just like Hamas.
Recently Hamas leaders visited the congres held by Turkish premier Erdogan, this was a clear kick in the face to Iran.
Also because Hamas tried to raise funds in Egypt and the other gulfregion countries ( most of whom are not friendly to Iran)
Hamas also supports their islamic brothers in Syria ( This despite the anger it caused by the Syrian government and Iran)


Jihads actions can severly damage and weaken Hamas. When Hamas gets weak Jihad can take over control in Gaza.
Hamas suffered allready due to succesfull Israeli police actions and the recently build wall by Israel.
One of the reasons they need money from elswhere. ( Egypt)
A big problem for Iran and most Islamic countries neighboring  Israel are the rocket attacks, why? The Israeli Iron Dome can be put to the test and as it looks it probably works.
The system can intercept small rockets so it will probably able to intercept any bigger (nuclear) missile.
A peace agreement is thus not in favor of the Palestinians but for Iran who dont want to see a working missile interception system in Israel for the ovious reasons. Thats another reason why they support the peacetalks, allthough not openly.
Soon both factions will thus run out of rockets and out of money because they offended their masters ( Iran mainly)
The victims are the ordinary civilians in Gaza, the working Palestinian who wants to raise his family and who wants peace.
The militants put them in the line and in harms way to keep their own war going, by doing so the militants keep the pressure on.
By helding their community in hostage they keep them controllable.
An Arabic spring by the ordinary Palestinians is a good solution to bring peace with Israel but the militatant groups will do all they can to prevent that.


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