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Author Topic: Back to The Stone Ages In Pakistan?  (Read 4256 times)
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« on: 4 April 2009, 06:05:24 »
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Is this truely what the coalition is fighting for to protect (NOTE this is inside Pakistan)? Our tax dollars at work, so to say...



Pashtun documentary maker Samar Minallah, who lived in Swat for two years in the late 1990s, handed the footage to the media.

The footage has sparked alarm across Pakistan and the west, which fears the Taliban is seeking to extend its influence across the region.

The girl in the video, named as Chaand, was punished in Matta in the Swat Valley.

She did not receive a trial and was punished according to the suspicions of one neighbour.

According to the bylines of the vid:

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This grainy footage appears to show a 17-year-old girl being beaten by Islamic radicals in Pakistan's northwestern region of Swat, where Sharia law was introduced after the government reached a truce with the Taleban in February.

A local Taleban commander in the militant stronghold of Matta, 25 miles from the regional capital, Mingora, ordered the girl to be flogged a week ago after accusing her of adultery, according to local reporters.
But some residents of Matta have accused the commander of ordering the beating to get revenge after the girl refused to accept his proposal of marriage, the reporters told The Times.

"Please! Enough! Enough!" the girl is heard crying in Pashtu, the language of the tribes who dominate northwestern Pakistan - now the main hub of Taleban and al-Qaeda activity.

At another point, she cries: "I am repenting, my father is repenting what I have done, my grandmother is repenting what I have done..."

The man flogging her is also heard abusing his colleague as he struggles to hold her down and stop her covering her backside with her hands.
"You should hold her tightly so she doesn't move", he is heard saying.



Ok, so we are back in the dark ages soon for Pakistan?

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« Reply #1 on: 4 April 2009, 10:14:49 »
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I recently saw a documentary on the parts of Pakistan in firm control of the Taliban and other extremists...

More villages and parts of Pakistan are being recaptured by the extremists...

Wanting to go to school can cost you your life...

And yes, they do want to live in the middle ages...or worse....

No school, no industry, no telecommunication, only farming, woman indoors to cook and clean....
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« Reply #2 on: 4 April 2009, 14:07:43 »
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When you read the Koran thoroughly you will find that, just as christians with God, everybody can seek and get remission/forgiveness by Allah.
The problem is that many of the writings can be interpreted just the way you want them too... Bedroefd
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« Reply #3 on: 4 April 2009, 15:30:57 »
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Stoffel sez:
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The problem is that many of the writings can be interpreted just the way you want them too...


To that I can only add... 'and often are!'

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« Reply #4 on: 4 April 2009, 17:29:23 »
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I don't understand your question Rattler.  How do you see that the coalition is fighting to protect what you show here?

The way I see it, this is what the government of Pakistan has brought upon it's own people, by ceding it's territory to the Taliban.
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« Reply #5 on: 4 April 2009, 23:14:55 »
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Actually I dont think their aim is to get back to the Stone Age, maybe just the 14th century.  Should we be in the business of telling other sovereign nations whats right and wrong in their own country?  This region of pakistan has always been the wild west, a hundred years ago we brits were fighting the very same tribesmen.  No doubt, a hundred years from now the Chinese or Indians will be fighting the same guys.
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« Reply #6 on: 4 April 2009, 23:19:31 »
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I don't understand your question Rattler.  How do you see that the coalition is fighting to protect what you show here?

The way I see it, this is what the government of Pakistan has brought upon it's own people, by ceding it's territory to the Taliban.


I was refering to that Pakistan is considered an allie in the WoT and western backed with sh**loads of dough and military help (which I believe is a strategical mistake: Not saying they should be considered enemy territory, but "allie"?). My guess is that it is because they are nuclear.

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« Reply #7 on: 5 April 2009, 04:31:04 »
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Of course.  Why would we want the Talis or Al Queda to grab a nuke from them?  But the instance you showed was the taliban beating the girl, not the Pakistan govt.  Of course the Pak govt did give a whole valley to the Taliban recently, so in a way I guess they are responsible.

You provided your own answer with this statement in your post:

"The footage has sparked alarm across Pakistan and the west, which fears the Taliban is seeking to extend its influence across the region."
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« Reply #8 on: 12 April 2009, 23:12:58 »
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Theres too many good people in Pakistan to let that happen though.  I hope.
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« Reply #9 on: 13 April 2009, 04:34:39 »
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May not have a choice if a theocratic government takes over.
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