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Author Topic: South-Korean Vessel Sinking, North-Korean Relation Suspected  (Read 4270 times)
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« on: 26 March 2010, 17:30:59 »
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Breaking News 26MAR1611Z, take with a grain of salt until stuff gets sorted or confirmed:

Apparently a South Korean vessel is currently sinking on the West coast of North Corea, after reportedly an explosion occured to the rear of the ship.

The ship in question is the Pohang class Patrol Combat Corvette "Cheonan" (PCC 772), see pic below.



Yonhap news agency quoted navy officials as saying that the ship was sinking near Baengnyeong island (see image)



According to the news agency: "...another South Korean ship had fired shots toward an unidentified ship in the North." The 1,200-tonne ship began sinking about 2130 local time (1230 GMT), after an explosion, Yonhap said.

A rescue operation composed of six naval and two coastguard sips is under way, and more than 50 sailors of the around 100 on board have been rescued.

The South Korean ministry of defence has not confirmed the reports of North Korean involvement.
   
More here:

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/SGE62P0GW.htm

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/26/south-korean-news-agency-navy-ship-sinking-near-north-korea/

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100326/ts_nm/us_korea_ship

While clashes over there are frequent, if really a torpedo attack should be the casue for the sinking this would be a new level and NK crossing a thin line probably (or SK if they went into NK waters), lets hope reason prevails and nobody does anything stupid on the basis of unconfirmed fears.

2009, NOV: One North Korean sailor killed in a naval fire fight in Yellow Sea
2002: Four South Korean sailors and an estimated 30 North Koreans killed in a naval gunfire exchange
1999: At least 17 North Korean sailors believed killed in naval fire fight
1998: South Korea captures a North Korean mini-submarine in its waters
1996: A North Korean submarine runs aground in South Korean waters

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« Reply #1 on: 27 March 2010, 00:01:48 »
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So what does NK want now?

Isn't that the standard procedure when NK is out of money/food or fuel they start rattling the sabre and pretending to be tough until the West gives them enough to keep the country limping on.
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« Reply #2 on: 27 March 2010, 15:58:28 »
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13th updated on IMF (though we were faster with the initial news and way more complete ! iconclap), surviving officers told they had no idea of an explosion (now smell of gunpowder etc), there extist the probability it was an accident (like running on a reef).

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« Reply #3 on: 18 April 2010, 10:16:08 »
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8626710.stm

North Korea has denied sinking a South Korean warship near their disputed maritime border last month.

"As South Korea can't identify the cause of the accident, they are using the media to attribute it to us," said a statement carried by state media.

It is the first official comment by Pyongyang on the incident, in which more than 40 sailors were killed.

South Korean media has has pinned the blame on the North, but official statements have been more circumspect.

There has been speculation in the South that the naval vessel was hit by a North Korean torpedo.

South Korean officials have also previously suggested the ship could have struck an old mine left over from the 1950-1953 Korean War.

North Korea accused the South of "a foolish attempt" to link the incident to Pyongyang, said an official statement published by the Korean Central News Agency.

Salvage operation

Fifty-eight crew survived, but 46 sailors died in the incident on 26 March.

Salvage workers found 36 bodies in the shattered hull of the Cheonan, a 1,200-tonne navy gunboat.

Two more bodies were recovered earlier, and another eight sailors remain unaccounted for.

The bow section of the vessel is due to be raised in about a week's time.

The Cheonan sank close to the sea border which marks North and South Korean territorial waters.

The North does not accept the maritime border, known as the Northern Limit Line, which was drawn unilaterally by the US-led United Nations Command at the end of the Korean War.

The sea border has been the scene of deadly clashes between the navies of the two Koreas in the past.
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« Reply #4 on: 18 April 2010, 15:13:59 »
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The current is also very, VERY strong over there which is why rescue operations have been taking so long.
Two Lynx helicopters have also been lost, I suspect because of the unpredictable and very powerful winds.
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« Reply #5 on: 18 April 2010, 17:01:40 »
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The current is also very, VERY strong over there which is why rescue operations have been taking so long.
Two Lynx helicopters have also been lost, I suspect because of the unpredictable and very powerful winds.


those 2 Lynx were lost in that rescue?
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« Reply #6 on: 22 April 2010, 21:57:48 »
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I know one of them definitely was.
Update on Lynx, mechanical failure, not unpredictable winds.
The winds in that area are crazy though.  Sometimes the wind speed rivals that of some hurricanes.
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« Reply #7 on: 20 May 2010, 20:13:23 »
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Recent reports claimed the north did sunk the Southern ship with a torpedo.....

Now I wonder why they failed to recognize a submarine or other Northern navy vessel, and why they didnt defend against a torpedo launch.
That boat should have been isued with defensive capabilities?
Any naval expert here to tell?

I hope nobody is going to do something stupid now  whistle
We cant fight a third war at the moment with our forces already engaged in two major ones.
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« Reply #8 on: 20 May 2010, 21:37:49 »
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Well, those waters are - as far as I hear - treacherous as far as sonar goes, shallow, many reflections etc, 13th had mentioned this before

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« Reply #9 on: 4 June 2010, 19:27:14 »
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Yeah.  I don't think the guys were asleep at the helm.  They just literally couldn't hear crap until it was too late.
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