War & Conflicts Discussions => World War II Operations & Battles => Topic started by: Der Alte Fritz on 8 January 2009, 16:40:29



Title: Kursk - Advance of 6th Panzer
Post by: Der Alte Fritz on 8 January 2009, 16:40:29
Hi MR
I am researching the advance of the 6th Panzer and atached Tiger Kompanie during the battle of Kursk. Around the 7th -9th they meet the 92nd GRD and 94th GRD near the village of Mellechowo and there is a battle between these units that leaves the 6th with 50 less operational tanks.
I have information from Glantz Battle of Kursk, Jentz Panzer Truppen, Glantz CSI report, Kursk database and the RKKA website which has a couple of maps of the action.
Really would like a Russian account of the battle.
Any ideas.
cheers


Title: Re: Kursk - Advance of 6th Panzer
Post by: Mad_Russian on 23 February 2011, 16:11:17
Hey ADF, I was gone from the site for awhile.

About your quest for information on 6th Panzer I've been on that same quest. With as much success as you've had. I have the same resources as you've got and nothing much about them. There's a real fight there if we can get the information about it though.

Good Hunting.

MR


Title: Re: Kursk - Advance of 6th Panzer
Post by: stoffel on 23 February 2011, 17:24:52
Raus gave a very detailed report about the fighting of 6th panzer at Kursk.
Not much about opposition, and the only counterattack he mentioned was on july 11.
Couldnt find anything on Mellechovo :(



Title: Re: Kursk - Advance of 6th Panzer
Post by: Mad_Russian on 11 January 2012, 16:37:39
Have new information about Kursk. If this is still being researched let me know.

Good Hunting.

MR


Title: Re: Kursk - Advance of 6th Panzer
Post by: MontyB on 11 January 2012, 22:40:11
Raus gave a very detailed report about the fighting of 6th panzer at Kursk.
Not much about opposition, and the only counterattack he mentioned was on july 11.
Couldnt find anything on Mellechovo :(




My problem with Raus is separating fact from self promotion, I have read his book now 2-3 times and it contains a lot of good information but heavily slanted towards making himself out to be the saviour of Germany on the Eastern Front that was ignored.
 


Title: Re: Kursk - Advance of 6th Panzer
Post by: Mad_Russian on 12 January 2012, 04:46:01
Two new excellent books covering the fighting on the southern shoulder of the salient and the tanks battles that took place there:

"Demolishing the Myth: The Tank Battle at Prokhorovka, Kursk, July 1943: An Operational Narrative" by Valeriy Zamulin

For the Soviet view, IMO, this is the right book written by the right author.

Valeriy Zamulin is a former Deputy Director and Director of Research at the Prokhorovka Battlefield Park Museum, 1996-2009. In addition to the present book, he has written over 60 articles and two other books on the subject of the Battle of Kursk published in Russia. Recently earning a PhD in History, he is currently conducting research for a detailed study of the savage back-and-forth fighting for Ponyri on the northern shoulder of the Kursk bulge, which some have referenced as 'The Stalingrad of Kursk'. He grew up walking the battlefield, and is still active in recovering artifacts from the battlefield on behalf of the Museum, including the recent recovery of the remains of a T-34 tank which became stuck in a swamp during the battle and was later swallowed up by it. He lives in Prokhorovka. / Stuart Britton is a freelance translator and editor residing in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. He has been responsible for making a growing number of Russian titles available to readers of the English language, consisting primarily of memoirs by Red Army veterans and recent historical research concerning the Eastern Front of the Second World War and Soviet air operations in the Korean War. Notable recent titles include Boris Gorbachevsky's Through the Maelstrom: A Red Army Soldier's War on the Eastern Front 1942-45 (University Press of Kansas, 2008) and Yuri Sutiagin's and Igor Seidov's MiG Menace Over Korea: The Story of Soviet Fighter Ace Nikolai Sutiagin (Pen & Sword Aviation, 2009). Future books will include Lev Lopukhovsky's detailed study of the Soviet disaster at Viazma in 1941, Svetlana Gerasimova's analysis of the prolonged and savage fighting against Army Group Center in 1942-43 to liberate the city of Rzhev, and more of Igor Seidov's studies of the Soviet side of the air war in Korea, 1951-1953.

http://www.amazon.com/Demolishing-Myth-Prokhorovka-Operational-Narrative/dp/1906033897/ref=pd_rhf_se_shvl1 (http://www.amazon.com/Demolishing-Myth-Prokhorovka-Operational-Narrative/dp/1906033897/ref=pd_rhf_se_shvl1)



Another new book on the subject, this one written from the German view point is:

"BLOOD, STEEL, AND MYTH: The II.SS-Panzer-Korps and the Road to Prochorowka" by George Nipe Jr.

http://www.amazon.com/BLOOD-STEEL-MYTH-II-SS-Panzer-Korps-Prochorowka/dp/0974838942/ref=pd_sim_b_1 (http://www.amazon.com/BLOOD-STEEL-MYTH-II-SS-Panzer-Korps-Prochorowka/dp/0974838942/ref=pd_sim_b_1)



Good Hunting.

MR