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Author Topic: My Tour of Duty, Interview & 'Soundtrack'  (Read 6327 times)
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« Reply #80 on: 18 February 2010, 19:02:59 »
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Jody,

I still have all videos on my HD and your channel is waiting for me to upload them...
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« Reply #81 on: 9 May 2010, 05:33:41 »
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Its been awhile since anybody asked me any questions, so here's a teaser, Facman at work bringing a CH-46 into my LZ. You can see my radio and pack in left lower of frame.
Yes, I had a steel pair back then, as I am the only one in the perimeter standing upright, out in the open. If this had been a movement to somewhere else by chopper, I would be the last person to leave the LZ as I was responsible for making sure no one got left behind. The theory was, if anyone got left behind it should be the guy with the radio who knows how to call in another chopper...

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« Reply #82 on: 9 May 2010, 10:08:30 »
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all the stuff on the floor, is that all backpack?  Geschokt
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« Reply #83 on: 9 May 2010, 15:36:08 »
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No, my helmet and flak jacket are at the bottom (r) side of the pack, so I carried the whole pile one way or another. You can see a few of the many canteens I carried. At one point I had 8-10 canteens strung across the back.
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« Reply #84 on: 9 May 2010, 15:37:27 »
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No, my helmet and flak jacket are at the bottom (r) side of the pic, so I carried the whole pile one way or another. You can see a few of the many canteens I carried strapped to the back of the pack. At one point I had 8-10 canteens strung across the back.


well, I suspect your back was out of solid concrete  Knipoog
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« Reply #85 on: 9 May 2010, 16:00:44 »
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Yes, my back was made of Iron in those days, I weighed in at 135 lbs., unlike today when I am limited to lifting 20 lbs. and walk with a cane at 250 lbs.

Black Sabbath, 'Ironman'
Black Sabbath Iron Man(Live in Paris 1970)

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« Reply #86 on: 10 May 2010, 08:58:15 »
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Nowadays we have the nice waterpacks from Camelback.
Very handy things, they fit under your backpack, and have a little hose, you can suck the water out anytime you need it.
No need to grab for those unhandy canteens, and even more importnat the weight of the water is divided over your entire back.
It also gives you more space to clip other stuff on your flak jacket Smiley
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« Reply #87 on: 10 May 2010, 15:32:50 »
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Yes Henk, the marvels of modern warfare. I used a camelback during my Veterans walk from SF to Great Salt Lake. So convenient.

During my ToD, we would occasionally sit on a hilltop for a few days and run patrols off it. This in turn required us to send off water patrols to resupply the perimeter security elements that didnt get to patrol into the drainages and get their water. These patrols would gather up empty canteens and patrol down into the drainage to fill the them. On one such patrol, I had filled two of my own canteens after filling about 10 I was carrying for the guys still up on the hill, by the time I got back into the perimeter, I had drank 1 1/2 of the canteens I had filled just a short time before. Thats how hot and dehydrated those of us who had gone down to fetch water (a heavy load on the uphill) became that day. It hardly seemed worth it to those who had humped it, but the guys on the hill needed it.
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« Reply #88 on: 11 May 2010, 20:00:43 »
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Yeah I know.
I heard from my friends whom just returned, that they drank 4 to 6 liters of water in the summer in Afghanistan.
You sweat it out faster than you can drink it Smiley
Same in the jungle in Congo.
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« Reply #89 on: 11 May 2010, 21:49:08 »
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Yeah I know.
I heard from my friends whom just returned, that they drank 4 to 6 liters of water in the summer in Afghanistan.
You sweat it out faster than you can drink it Smiley
Same in the jungle in Congo.

JFTR: Same here in Mallorca: Working (not hard labour, just normal issues) will need you 4 ltrs daily in summer. I imagine that with gear and BDU it will be more over there.

Kongo, as far as I have heard, might be  different thing, there it is more fatigue because of high humidity tht is an issue, not so much dehydration or salt (Kalium) loss.

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« Reply #90 on: 12 May 2010, 14:16:22 »
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I suspect the Congo would be very much like Vietnam, humidity is a factor. I recall one operation (in vicinity of 'The Rockpile') where our initial humping was done in 8-10 foot tall elephant grass in 110+f temps. The humidity down in the elephant grass was atrocious, with no wind at all. By noon we started having heat casualties, and had to leave several pockets of ill Marines (with security) to recover. We stopped for the day only when our K9 handler said his dog needed medivac because he had unexpectedly started bleeding from his nose. What an eye opener, Marines could go down without medivac but not the dog.
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« Reply #91 on: 19 September 2010, 19:13:39 »
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Jody, about the KIA

did all return to the US?
are their cemeteries/graves of GI's in Laos, Cambodja or Vietnam?
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I cannot speak knowledgably on your first question, though with the number of MIAs we had, I'd put my money on at least some of them being buried in all three countries. During my ToD, all KIAs from D 1/4 were recovered and returned to 'The World' (CONUS), and we had no MIAs. As for cemeteries, I knew of none, as my entire ToD, but for one week, was spent in the highlands of Leatherneck Corner. We never left the confines of our compounds when in the rear (Quang Tri Combat Base) so didnt see much of the populated lowlands other than along the main road as we convoyed between Quang Tri and Vandergriff Combat Base (LZ Stud or as we called it, 'Stud') The attached photo exhibits a common sight on that route, roadside graveyards. Some Vietnamese in Quang Tri Province buried their dead in mounds, and I believe some were disposed of by cremation.
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I cannot speak knowledgably on your first question, though with the number of MIAs we had, I'd put my money on at least some of them being buried in all three countries. During my ToD, all KIAs from D 1/4 were recovered and returned to 'The World' (CONUS), and we had no MIAs. As for cemeteries, I knew of none, as my entire ToD, but for one week, was spent in the highlands of Leatherneck Corner. We never left the confines of our compounds when in the rear (Quang Tri Combat Base) so didnt see much of the populated lowlands other than along the main road as we convoyed between Quang Tri and Vandergriff Combat Base (LZ Stud or as we called it, 'Stud') The attached photo exhibits a common sight on that route, roadside graveyards. Some Vietnamese in Quang Tri Province buried their dead in mounds, and I believe some were disposed of by cremation.
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how did/does the 'cominghome' works?
are all soldiers buried together in the US?
can you tell us what road they travel from the battlefield to their final restingplace?

did you know this site: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pow/powhome.html
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I believe the KIAs were transported to Travis AFB in Ca. initially. If the KIA was identified, his body would be returned to his family. If the KIA was unidentified, it would have to go to a military forensics lab for identification. Since we didn't have DNA testing like today, I suspect that there may have been some inadvertant errors made, which we may well never know about. Perhaps that is just as well. The KIAs would be buried as per the request of their families, some were buried in private cemetaries near their hometowns/families, while others were buried at National Military Cemetaries located across the US. The VA's National Cemetery Administration maintains 131 national cemeteries in 39 states (and Puerto Rico) as well as 33 soldier's lots and monument sites.

I am not very knowledgable on this subject, as upon my return and for many years after, I did my best to forget about those who didnt come home. Not out of disrespect, but out of the sheer pain the memories would bring to the surface. It took 26 years before I was able to even begin looking for Doc's family, to tell them of the circumstances of his death. It was a difficult and painful task, but I was successful and his family knows that he died trying to save the life of a wounded Marine. He shall always remain a Hero in my heart for his actions that day and if there is an afterlife, I shall surely seek him out. It is only now, in my waning years that I can look back without internalizing that pain. Dont get me wrong, it is every bit as painful, its just that my callouses have toughened up and perhaps I find a need to remember those I may soon meet again.
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Music I listened to when young, Wolfman Jack beig one transporter.

Jody, any idea what happened to the group members? Are they still there? Alive at least?

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This is from Quicksilver's first album....but still part of my Tour 'Soundtrack'


Quicksilver Messenger Service - Gold and Silver



Music wise thats kind of "Take 5", (after 0:18 into the Quicksilver vid) no? Intended? Inspired? Did this song mean anything yto you guys going ´Nam? Nerdy guys in suits not moving a bit but displaying more talent and musical knowledge than many other "wild" groups at that time (I know, thats 61, and before war, but still?)

The Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five (1961)


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Grace Slick- vocals
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Marty Balin- vocals, guitar
MARTY BALIN - "Count On Me" & "With Your Love" January 23rd, 2010


Paul Kantner- vocals, guitar
The Baby Tree - Paul Kantner & Jefferson Starship (2006) HD
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Jorma Kaukonen- guitar
Jack Casady- bass

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Spencer Dryden- drums

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As you can see, all but Spencer are still alive and well.
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I can only speak for myself here, I had no exposure to jazz until long after my ToD, and little interest in music, other than the SF music scene, until well after my ToD as well. I do not reject the chance that the band members were influenced by other musicians, in fact I would be surprised if they hadn't been.
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