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Author Topic: My Tour of Duty, Interview & 'Soundtrack'  (Read 6315 times)
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« Reply #60 on: 29 September 2009, 19:54:34 »
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ok, thx

Indeed, in most WWII movies and docus in and around the Pacific the Marines are the ones shown so the viewer starts thinking that they did it on their own.

Is it so then that a big part of the Marines is always 'on the road'?

What about the Gulf Wars? Since you stated that the speciality is amphibious landings....not much water in the desert  hihi
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« Reply #61 on: 29 September 2009, 22:07:39 »
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In time of war, yes. In peacetime, only a couple of battalions will be afloat. Usually one in the Med and one in WestPac.


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What about the Gulf Wars? Since you stated that the speciality is amphibious landings....not much water in the desert


As Light Infantry, the Corps is extremely flexible. There weren't a lot of Amphib operations in Vietnam either, but plenty of Helo operations. Remember the Amphib landing or the Helo insertion was just the opening movement of operations, once on the ground I spent most of my tour riding around on my LPCs (Leather Personel Carriers(boots to the dim)) as do most Light Infantry.
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« Reply #62 on: 16 November 2009, 11:00:52 »
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and now a break for a zippy little tune, since there aren't very many questions coming in from the audience...

Jefferson Airplane - Volunteers (with Lyric)
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« Reply #63 on: 20 November 2009, 12:47:48 »
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To me this is a quintessential sound from my tour of duty and representative of the San Francisco sound of the era.
With that being said I present to you...'Gold & Silver' by Quicksilver (one of my all time favorite pieces)

Quicksilver Messenger Service - Gold and Silver


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« Reply #64 on: 21 November 2009, 22:38:55 »
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thx for Quicksilver....didn't know them yet...
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« Reply #65 on: 7 December 2009, 15:13:07 »
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This song was a favorite with the GIs because of the subject...

The Box Tops, 'The Letter'

The Box Tops - The Letter


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« Reply #66 on: 7 December 2009, 21:02:02 »
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To me this is a quintessential sound from my tour of duty and representative of the San Francisco sound of the era.
With that being said I present to you...'Gold & Silver' by Quicksilver (one of my all time favorite pieces)

Quicksilver Messenger Service - Gold and Silver

Did not know them yet, strangely familiar sounds, and (w/o any disrespect intended): Isn´t this a bit "Take 5", modernized (for that time frame), IMHO at least the base line is a clear copy?

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The Dave Brubeck Quartet - Take Five (1961)
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« Reply #67 on: 18 December 2009, 15:39:50 »
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Wow.  Is all I can say.  Thanks for linking this thread for me FACman,  truly educational.

Do you see that girl in the video in your link #31 (the little naked girl running, it's a rather famous picture),  well she came to our church when I was living in British Columbia to do a speech some years back.  It's a small world huh?

It's interesting that you were only 19 when in serving in Vietnam,  they say that the average age of the American soldier that served in Vietnam was 19.  Like the song states:  'you're old enough to kill, but too young to vote'.  How crazy is that?  

Yes, I liked that film with Reese and Phoenix - 'walk the line',  a true love story,  and how they overcame.  

Just one question,  looking back how do you feel about the Vietnamese people now?  The one's you fought against?  It was such a crazy war wasn't it?  I feel really bad for the young soldiers who served there,  it seems they just dumped them there and forgotten.

Amazing music on this thread.
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« Reply #68 on: 18 December 2009, 16:46:13 »
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Just one question,  looking back how do you feel about the Vietnamese people now?  The one's you fought against?


I hold no animosity for the Vietnamese people. I have the utmost respect for the Warriors that we fought against, able and capable adversaries they were.

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It was such a crazy war wasn't it?


I feel the craziness comes from the lies that got us into it, much like the war in Irak.

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I feel really bad for the young soldiers who served there,  it seems they just dumped them there and forgotten.


After forty years of struggle, I am only now beginning to understand why I act and feel the way I do. Unlike today, they did not treat us for our psychic wounds, and did in fact forget and abandon us.

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Yes, it is the soundtrack of my life as well as my tour.
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« Reply #69 on: 18 December 2009, 16:53:39 »
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Isn´t this a bit "Take 5", modernized (for that time frame), IMHO at least the base line is a clear copy?


I think is is very similar, and I like the original as well if it is in fact a copy, SF music scene had a healthy jazz influence from the earlier Beat scene in North Beach...
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« Reply #70 on: 18 December 2009, 19:46:26 »
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Jody, reviweing the thread, the first (and I now see the second, fith, sixth, and seventh too) vid has been deleted "for viloating the terms of use", any chance you can get it from another - not supressed "on demand" (who demanded it?) - source (as I remember the pics but not the gist to find a copy)?

EDIT: Just on the first page, of 15 videos posted, only three can be viewed, the rest is supressed for being either "Sony: Prohibited to be displayed in your country"  or Google/Youtube: "Supressed on demand: Violating terms of use", definitely time to change video storage site...

It is a real pity, actually, these vids - for me at least - represent history, I somehow over time got the feeling there should be something like "Patrimonial protection" applied to such vids as it is now to buildings with "historical value" as a standard!? I am more and more feeling like living in the dark dictator times again! Any ideas on how to organize a motion for that on the net?!: "WE are THE PEOPLE!"

The third, fifth and 7th vid "...contains Sony content which you are not allowed to view in your country...." ?? WHAT? Can you repeat, plz, Mr. Sony? AFAIK my constituition allows me to view anything, care to be a bit more pricise?

I have been left open mouthed, just after reading 10 posts... Where are we going to, which world do we want to live in? Seriously??

First take: Read Koens post on "How to dl Utube vids" and save them on our machines, upload to WaT from there, not as glöeamy but will work...  Jody, I urge you to review the thread and go through the vids before more vanish, let´s deal with the legal issues later (I have got a Panama server we can use).

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Thanks to Rattler's persuasive nudge, I found the music and video's at UTube quite the memory joggers. Then Koen nudged me to make this thread. It is with much gratitude that I dedicate this first installment to Rattler & Koen, for their excellent ideas.

It was Koen's idea to do an interview as well. So we have combined the two, since it has proven to be far more efficient, as the videos themselves sometimes prompt questions (once again Rattler was ahead of the curve).



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*At ~2:00 in, you will see a bunch of guys going back to 'The World', aka home, as they climb aboard the Caribou, a herd of  'boots' (FNGs in Doggie lingo) stumble off the plane and mill about until some Sgt starts chewing on their hind quarters...too funny.
 
*At ~2:30 in, you will see a skinny fellow run out onto the LZ, pop a smoke then jump back in his hole, grab his handset and start talking to the inbound choppers. No, its not me, but it could well have been. That is a FACman performing his primary job... guiding the birds into his LZ.

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« Reply #71 on: 18 December 2009, 21:25:58 »
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I have started the process of replacing the lost music, but this is gonna take some time. Once again, thanks for the heads up Rattler as I dont go back and look at them very often.
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« Reply #72 on: 18 December 2009, 21:50:41 »
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I have started the process of replacing the lost music, but this is gonna take some time. Once again, thanks for the heads up Rattler as I dont go back and look at them very often.



Jody, I haven´t been on the thread for a long time also, but that is then presumably the good side of having girls on the site ?  Gemeen whistle

Here the how-to by Koen: http://www.warandtactics.com/smf/wat-board-technical-info/how-to-download-a-youtube-video/

If you have vids stored, let me know, I can (as TA) make sure we can view them on WaT.

Onwards !

(For us Leftist Germans this would be, with Berthold Brecht: "Vorwärts! ...und nicht vergessen, worin unsere Stärke besteht: Die Solidarität!)!", from 1931 (original recording). Traduction: "Onwards, and do never forget what makes us strong! Solidarity!").

Really, let´s give it to youtube, let us try and make them to revisit their standards!

Lyrics: Berthold Brecht (The Three Penny Opera: Mack the Knife), Music: Hanns Eisler ("Hangmen Also Die!", "Schweik in the Second World War")

A rough and bad translation by google, dont have the time to do it myself except the snippet below (3rd verse): http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.erinnerungsort.de%2Fsolidaritaetslied--28-22vorwaerts-und-nicht-vergessen-22-29-_193.html&sl=de&tl=en

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they like to see us discording!
Because, as long as they can divide us,
They can remain being our masters...

Onwards, and don´t forget ...



EDIT: Changed Vid, now it is not from 1931... :(But, and that is the reason why I changed it, it includes some pictures of the genious Hanns Eisler, directing on the streets in Berlin this song for a demonstration of a lot of  -300.000- people that did not want Hitler to come - and failed miserably).

Hanns Eisler - Solidaritätslied - HK Gruber


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« Reply #73 on: 19 December 2009, 20:06:36 »
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furthermore...we have our OWN youtube channel  iconclap

so...found some videos on youtube? send me the link, I'll try to download and then upload them to WaT on Youtube  champ

http://www.youtube.com/user/warandtactics
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« Reply #74 on: 19 December 2009, 20:43:02 »
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Yes, I have found many, but they keep getting shut down by You Tube, and they are for my Interview soundtrack so to put them on our channel would seem to defeat the purpose.
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« Reply #75 on: 20 December 2009, 08:05:02 »
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Yes, I have found many, but they keep getting shut down by You Tube, and they are for my Interview soundtrack so to put them on our channel would seem to defeat the purpose.

Still, when Koen can dl them we can upload them, doesnt matter then when YouTube shuts them down. thy will disply in your interview thread from *our* WaT folder, at least that is the idea...

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« Reply #76 on: 20 December 2009, 12:04:44 »
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Very well, Then Koen needs to grab the ones that are still here, while I find replacements for those stolen from us.
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« Reply #77 on: 20 December 2009, 14:34:38 »
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Very well, Then Koen needs to grab the ones that are still here, while I find replacements for those stolen from us.


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edit: downloaded 38 videos

some have no artist/title info, can you help with these FACman?

I'll clean up titles and such, re-organize as much as possible our YT channel and finally upload them.
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« Reply #78 on: 17 February 2010, 21:45:16 »
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Yes, they even played this one on AFVN radio (Armed Forces Vietnam)

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« Reply #79 on: 17 February 2010, 22:45:55 »
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Funny at 1:06 they use a photo of Charles Upham the only combat soldier to win the Victoria Cross twice.
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