NCO Club: Off Topic Discussions => The Lab: Science & Technology => Topic started by: NewsMan on 7 June 2012, 05:00:10



Title: Was Air France captain with woman when Flight 447 was in trouble?
Post by: NewsMan on 7 June 2012, 05:00:10
Was Air France captain with woman when Flight 447 was in trouble?

In the final chaotic moments before Air France flight 447 crashed into the Atlantic Ocean in 2009, it took the captain of the aircraft, who was on a scheduled break, more than a minute to return to the cockpit, despite his two co-pilots' frantic calls for help, black box recordings showed.

Although it was never revealed what delayed Capt. Marc Dubois, two independent sources told ABC News that the 58-year-old veteran Air France pilot was traveling socially with an off-duty Air France flight attendant named Veronique Gaignard.

Jean-Paul Troadec, the director of BEA, the French authority conducting the investigation into the Flight 447 crash, told ABC News that Gaignard was not part of their investigation because the agency was "not interested" in the "private life of the pilot." Troadec added that he did not think Dubois's alleged relations with Gaignard aboard the plane would have played a role in the accident. […]


Read more: Was Air France captain with woman when Flight 447 was in trouble? (http://news.yahoo.com/air-france-captain-woman-flight-447-trouble-214157897--abc-news-topstories.html)

From Yahoo News on Terrorism (YTER)


Title: Re: Was Air France captain with woman when Flight 447 was in trouble?
Post by: Rattler on 5 October 2012, 23:53:58
OK, so I am somewhat slow in responding... You knewded that!

Quote
Jean-Paul Troadec, the director of BEA, the French authority conducting the investigation into the Flight 447 crash, told ABC News that Gaignard was not part of their investigation because the agency was "not interested" in the "private life of the pilot." Troadec added that he did not think Dubois's alleged relations with Gaignard aboard the plane would have played a role in the accident.

And right he is: Captain was off duty, supposedly down and out in his  bunk. Whether he was sleeping there or fooling around has no impact whatsoever on the evaluation of his responsibilities in an investigation. That he made it into cockpit in such short time - from a different flight deck - is something to acclaim him for (not so for failing to grab the situation, once he was there), not to shunt him for.

Press makes me sick sometimes: Even if he had slept through all the event until causing a ripple in the Pacific there would be nobody ever able to throw the faintest shade of blame on him for having done so (from a different POV you could discuss whether it was a good idea to take time off at this moment for starters, but that is a *different* take).

"Off duty" means you can ignore her for now, your qualified subs take care of her fate ("You have her?"… "I have her"). Apart from being the ultimate authority on board (and hence responsible - inherently - for *everything*) you are out of responsibility for the procedures evolution, and definitely so from a penal POV.

Flight law (as well as sea law) are (rightfully from my POV) like that.

Rattler