5 December 2019, 17:50:50 *

Login with username, password and session length
Welcome to War and Tactics!    War and Tactics Forum is currently undergoing some modifications that might disable features you are used to. This is unabvoidable as we have to update the forum engine to a new structure that is incompatible with many of the features we had used so far. The good news: WaT will be more secure and stable, and most of the features we uninstalled will be a natural part of the new structure anyway. For the rest we will be looking for solutions. (APR 23, 2018)
   
  Home   Forum   Help ! Forum Rules ! Search Calendar Donations Login Register Chat  
Pages:  1 ... 4 5 [6] 7 8 ... 13   Go Down
  Print  
Share this topic on Del.icio.usShare this topic on DiggShare this topic on FacebookShare this topic on GoogleShare this topic on MySpaceShare this topic on RedditShare this topic on StumbleUponShare this topic on TechnoratiShare this topic on TwitterShare this topic on Yahoo
Author Topic: The Money of War  (Read 176496 times)
Alan65
The Postcard man
Captain
***

Offline Offline

United States

Location: Seattle
Posts: 765




View Profile WWW
« Reply #100 on: 4 June 2010, 21:14:52 »
ReplyReply


The 50 francs note issued February 1940 during the 'Phony War'

The French 5 francs note dated December 23, 1943.  There are many dates printed in the line at the bottom otherwise the design remained the same from 1943-47.

The 50 francs 1944 note, called Allied Military Currency or Supplemental French Franc Currency.  This one differs from the one posted before in the wording at the sides:  "Emis en France" [issued in France] as opposed to just "FRANCE"

The 100 francs note from 1944. this one is the 2nd issue since it just says "FRANCE" unlike the note above it.  The numbers near the serial number can range from '2' to '10' (this one has a '5'.)
« Last Edit: 12 June 2010, 00:19:50 by Alan65 » Logged
Alan65
The Postcard man
Captain
***

Offline Offline

United States

Location: Seattle
Posts: 765




View Profile WWW
« Reply #101 on: 4 June 2010, 21:22:08 »
ReplyReply



Issued during World War I, these French Army Treasury notes were issued in 1917.  They were valid with French and Allied military cashiers and in regular banks in designated areas.  They expired after the 2nd year of the peace (whenever that would end up being.)  A second series was issued in 1919 "good until the end of the 4th year after the Armistice."  The 1917 series also came in a 2 francs note.
Logged
Alan65
The Postcard man
Captain
***

Offline Offline

United States

Location: Seattle
Posts: 765




View Profile WWW
« Reply #102 on: 7 June 2010, 22:29:00 »
ReplyReply



The late-1930s 1 and 5 piastre notes from French Indo-china (Vietnam,Laos and Cambodia) issued by the Bank of Indo-china.  The 1 piastre note has the 1946 signature variety but otherwise is the same as that issued in 1936 and used through the initial years of the war.  The 5 piastre note was issued in 1936 and remained the same throughout the war.


Gouvernement General de l'Indochine banknotes of 10 and 20 cents issued in 1939.  I believe these are Vichy French issued notes.




The Government General changed the design in 1942.  Here are the 5-, 10-, 20- and 50-cent banknotes.  These were the only denominations issued in this series.
Logged
Alan65
The Postcard man
Captain
***

Offline Offline

United States

Location: Seattle
Posts: 765




View Profile WWW
« Reply #103 on: 7 June 2010, 22:41:15 »
ReplyReply

These 2 pieces of paper money were in circulation when Vietnam gained its independence from France. 

the 1 piastre note of 1953 with Bao Dai at center.

The 1954 1 piastre note.
the 'Institut d'Emission des Etats du Cambodge du Laos et du Vietnam' was the money-issuing agency which formed after WWII when France granted some independence to French Indo-china and the resulting smaller areas were members of the French Union.
the above notes are from Vietnam (the back says "1 dong"--which was equivalent to the old 'piastre' and is in Vietnamese)
Logged
Alan65
The Postcard man
Captain
***

Offline Offline

United States

Location: Seattle
Posts: 765




View Profile WWW
« Reply #104 on: 9 June 2010, 00:05:29 »
ReplyReply




The first Darlehenskassenschein (State Loan Currency Note), 5-, 20- and 50-mark notes issued August 1914.



and the second issue of 1914 included these 1- and 2-mark notes (the red seal/red serial number vs. blue seal/blue serial number is the only difference in the two 2-mark notes.)
« Last Edit: 9 June 2010, 15:40:02 by Alan65 » Logged
Alan65
The Postcard man
Captain
***

Offline Offline

United States

Location: Seattle
Posts: 765




View Profile WWW
« Reply #105 on: 9 June 2010, 21:01:19 »
ReplyReply


1916 issue of Lithuania occupation State Loan Bank Currency--50 kopeck denomination; others were 20 kopeck, 1-, 3-, 10-, 25- and 100-rubels.

The 1917-18 issue of the State Loan Currency for 5 marks.  (The spelling was changed to "Darlehnskassenschein")

the next two are quite beautiful and I'll show both the front and back.  The first is the 20-mark version of the above 1917 issue.



the next one is the Imperial Bank note for 20 marks issued in 1915.

Logged
Alan65
The Postcard man
Captain
***

Offline Offline

United States

Location: Seattle
Posts: 765




View Profile WWW
« Reply #106 on: 10 June 2010, 16:15:32 »
ReplyReply



These notes were issued in 1929--after the hyper-inflation had been tamed but before Hitler's government took over--and show the 20- and 50-mark notes.  The 20 shows Werner von Siemens, the 50 David Hansemann.  The 20 was replaced in June, 1939, while the 50 was in use throughout the war and even re-issued (with some text added at left) in 1945.



Both of the above notes are considered military notes.  The 5 reichspfenning is an Auxilary Payment Certificate for the German Armed Forces and was issued in 1942. It is uniface (has a blank back.)  The 1 reichsmark note is a Clearing Note for German Armed Forces and was issued in September of 1944.  I am not sure what the purpose of a 'clearing note' was.


This 20 reichsmark note was issued for use in Sudentenland and Lower Silesia in April 1945.

Finally, this 5 reichsmark note was issued for use in occupied territory and could have been seen circulating along with the local national currency. It dates from 1940-45.
Logged
Alan65
The Postcard man
Captain
***

Offline Offline

United States

Location: Seattle
Posts: 765




View Profile WWW
« Reply #107 on: 11 June 2010, 19:12:45 »
ReplyReply




As seen up-thread, the Allied occupation governments issued special currency for the defeated Germany.  (Italy and Japan got similar treatment with very similar-looking banknotes.)  Pictured above are the 5-, 10- and 50-mark denominations of this money.
Logged
Alan65
The Postcard man
Captain
***

Offline Offline

United States

Location: Seattle
Posts: 765




View Profile WWW
« Reply #108 on: 11 June 2010, 19:22:00 »
ReplyReply




Here is the 1-mark and half-mark banknotes from the early West German government, the Federal Republic of Germany.
When it became obvious that the various regions occupied by the US, France and Great Britain would not be unified with the regions occupied by the USSR, the Western powers decided to let Western Germany gain some independence.  One way to do this was to have new currency issued.  These lower denominations are somewhat similar to the occupation notes shown in earlier posts but--especially in the higher denominations which I hope to acquire some day. . . --they are distinct from the occupation designs (and thus memories.)
The 2-, 5- and 10-mark bills are like these pictured above; the 20-, 50- and 100-mark notes are a lot like US money design.
Logged
Alan65
The Postcard man
Captain
***

Offline Offline

United States

Location: Seattle
Posts: 765




View Profile WWW
« Reply #109 on: 12 June 2010, 00:24:32 »
ReplyReply


My only example of Civil War money is this 50 cent note from the Confederate States of America ("the South") and dates from 1864.  The text on the left edge says that this money can be redeemed (for silver coin) 2 years after the peace treaty; the assumption is that after the South wins the war--or at least gets recognized by the North and the fighting stops--this money would be turned in for "real money", ie. silver.  It's hard to imagine taking this type of currency seriously, but this sort of condition is often used e.g. see the French WWI money above.
Logged
MontyB
WaT Supporter

*

Offline Offline

New Zealand

Location: New Zealand
Posts: 1005




View Profile
« Reply #110 on: 12 June 2010, 02:29:28 »
ReplyReply

<Quoted Image Removed>
My only example of Civil War money is this 50 cent note from the Confederate States of America ("the South") and dates from 1864.  The text on the left edge says that this money can be redeemed (for silver coin) 2 years after the peace treaty; the assumption is that after the South wins the war--or at least gets recognized by the North and the fighting stops--this money would be turned in for "real money", ie. silver.  It's hard to imagine taking this type of currency seriously, but this sort of condition is often used e.g. see the French WWI money above.



I thought the USA used various types of currency up until quite recently aka around the early 1900s?
Logged

We are more often treacherous through weakness than through calculation. ~Francois De La Rochefoucauld
Alan65
The Postcard man
Captain
***

Offline Offline

United States

Location: Seattle
Posts: 765




View Profile WWW
« Reply #111 on: 12 June 2010, 03:48:47 »
ReplyReply

Monty, are you referring to different local banks issuing 'local' money? (yes, State banks did this until early 20th century).  Silver certificates vs. gold certificates?  (yes, we had paper money backed by silver and some backed by gold.  By 'backed' I mean you could take the paper money into any bank and get silver or gold coins of equal value for it.)  Not sure I follow what the question is.  My comment about it being hard to take this type of money seriously refers to 'this note will be exchangeable in 2 years time' type of conditions put on the value of the paper money.  It's done in war time, sometimes, but otherwise is more like a ponzi scheme.
Logged
Alan65
The Postcard man
Captain
***

Offline Offline

United States

Location: Seattle
Posts: 765




View Profile WWW
« Reply #112 on: 13 June 2010, 16:27:54 »
ReplyReply


The First Series of the UK Armed Forces Special Vouchers used in military canteens, with certain organizations and other special uses by military personnel.  This note was issued in 1946 for use by British forces occupying German and Austria; in 1947 it was used by occupying troops in Japan.




The Second Series was issued in 1948 and removed in 1971.  It was used world-wide by British forces.


the 3rd Series was issued for the Suez Crisis in 1956.  The holes in the 10 shilling note mean that it has been cancelled (invalidated/rendered void.)

The Fourth Series was issued in 1962 and replaced by the Fifth Series soon thereafter.
Logged
Alan65
The Postcard man
Captain
***

Offline Offline

United States

Location: Seattle
Posts: 765




View Profile WWW
« Reply #113 on: 15 June 2010, 00:23:35 »
ReplyReply


The Greek state's 5 drachma issue from June, 1941.  Things were still not too bad for the economy.

this 5 million drachma note issued by the German occupiers in 1944 shows how quickly things can spiral out of control during a war.
Logged
Alan65
The Postcard man
Captain
***

Offline Offline

United States

Location: Seattle
Posts: 765




View Profile WWW
« Reply #114 on: 15 June 2010, 00:30:23 »
ReplyReply


The Hong Kong 1 Dollar bill issued in 1936 in use when the war began and replaced with a blue one like it in 1940 or '41.

The Hong Kong 10-cent note issued in 1941.  Again, this small denomination bill was not valid for amounts more than 2 dollars.
Logged
Alan65
The Postcard man
Captain
***

Offline Offline

United States

Location: Seattle
Posts: 765




View Profile WWW
« Reply #115 on: 15 June 2010, 00:40:01 »
ReplyReply


Here is the 1945 issue from Iceland of their 1 krona banknote.  Again, the years of issue are distinguished by the color of the bill--this one is blue on yellow-ish paper--and the serial numbers.  (Compare it to the brown 1 krona note in an earlier post.)
Logged
Alan65
The Postcard man
Captain
***

Offline Offline

United States

Location: Seattle
Posts: 765




View Profile WWW
« Reply #116 on: 15 June 2010, 00:43:15 »
ReplyReply


This 1 lira note was issued in November, 1944; Italy had capitulated but the war raged on.  It is rather small, measuring 78mm x 42 mm, and came in 2-, 5- and 10-lira denominations, too.
Logged
Alan65
The Postcard man
Captain
***

Offline Offline

United States

Location: Seattle
Posts: 765




View Profile WWW
« Reply #117 on: 15 June 2010, 20:19:30 »
ReplyReply



The 5 and 10 yen notes issued in 1930 and replaced in 1942.

The 1944 100-yen banknote.
Logged
Alan65
The Postcard man
Captain
***

Offline Offline

United States

Location: Seattle
Posts: 765




View Profile WWW
« Reply #118 on: 15 June 2010, 20:23:50 »
ReplyReply


10 sen note issued c1917-21 during World War I.  This Great Imperial Japanese Government 'Paper Money' issue also came in 20- and 50-sen denominations.  there was a 20-yen coin but otherwise it seems there really wasn't a whole lot of money in circulation in Japan in the late 1910s.
Logged
Alan65
The Postcard man
Captain
***

Offline Offline

United States

Location: Seattle
Posts: 765




View Profile WWW
« Reply #119 on: 16 June 2010, 23:55:12 »
ReplyReply





Pictured above are more Allied Occupation currency from my collection.  The notes with a 'A' behind the serial number in the center were 1946 while the ones with a 'B' were issued for use in 1945 (yes, the 'B' appears to have come first.)  The 'A' is much more rare; for the 10 sen notes, it's a differnce of a few dollars but for the 100 yen note the price difference for a collector is in the $100s.
Logged
Pages:  1 ... 4 5 [6] 7 8 ... 13   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Unique Hits: 27193132 | Sitemap
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.16 | SMF © 2011, Simple Machines
TinyPortal v0.9.8 © Bloc
Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!


Google visited last this page Yesterday at 16:28:42