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1  War & Conflicts Discussions / 20th century Afghanistan / The Soviet war in Afghanistan. on: 15 January 2009, 23:59:38
Kabul, Afghanistan, 27 December 1979.

Soviet paratroopers of the 105th Guards Airborne Division and KGB spetnaz troops attack Darulaman Palace, kill president Hafizullah Amin and take control of the government.
Four Soviet motorized rifle divisions (66, 201, 357 and 360) cross the Amu Darya River and enter Afghanistan.

This is the beginning of a decade of fighting.

The course of the war;

1978;
Afghan Communist seize power in april.
Moslem leaders declare Jihad (holy war).
Resistance throughout the country.

1979;
Resistance pressure on Afghan government increases.
In december the Soviets intervene by capturing Kabul in an airborne assault.

1980;
Soviets crush Afghan army uprising and commit air-ground offensivesto clear the Resistance from strategic positions.

1981;
Soviets start widescale air assault and spetsnaz operations.
Primarely small unit counter-geurilla operations.

1982;
Communist start systematic depopulation of the countryside.
Soviet use of massive air power and artillery against resistance held cities and towns and chemical warfare use against infiltration routes.
Soviets launch division sized sweeps to clear critical area's.

1983;
Soviets strengthen their forces in Afghanistan.
Soviet use of airwar approach with interdiction and air assaults against Resistance.
Training of Resistance fighters improve.

1984;
Soviets launch nationwide offensive.
Division sized units in action at Herat an Pansjher Valley.
Resistance is pushed back but Soviets do not hold ground once taken.

1985;
More offensive actions from Resistance.
Soviets repeat nationwide offensive.
Main target is Resistance lines of communication.

1986;
Resistance attacks towns and cities.
Communist strike back.
Soviet use of masses of firepower.
Resistance get improved weapons which take their toll of Soviet aircraft.

1987;
Afghan government announces ceasefire.
Soviets starts pulling back out of isolated bases.
City security strengthened.
Soviets attempt to keep Resistance off balance by limited airstrikes.

1988;
Resistance advance to major cities.
Government outposts are being overrun.
Soviets counterattacks to retake lost cities.
Soviet airstikes continue to disrupt Resistance attacks.
Soviets starts withdrawal.

1989;
Soviets withdraw.
Resistance advance to Kabul and other major cities.

1990;
Communist repel Resistance attacks on major cities.
Resistance divided.

1991;
Soviet Union and United States agree to halt military assistance to Afghanistan by 1 january 1992.

2  War & Conflicts Discussions / Panzer VI & its variants "Tiger" / Re: Königstiger - 2 types of turrets identification on: 15 January 2009, 22:43:52
50 is the number and the number will be 50.

As the first 50 King Tigers were fitted with the Porsche turret.......

consider the following;

The 88 mm L/71 round generates a muzzle energy of 4.5 megajoules.
This energy is equivelant to 17.910.000 Calories.
Roughly the amount of energy you would get from eating 58.700 cheeseburgers.
3  War & Conflicts Discussions / World War II: Axis Equipment / Re: Info requested on JagdTigers! on: 15 January 2009, 22:23:50
This information seems reasonable reliable to me……..

für die Tiger-Familie verwendete Kettentypen

     Bezeichnung der
     Kette im Original    Symmetrie    Teiligkeit    Verwendung der Kette
1 / Kgs 62/640/130             ja                 ein                 Allzweck
2 / Kgs 62/640/130             ja               zwei                Allzweck
3 / Kgs 64/640/130             ja               zwei                Allzweck
4 / Kgs 63/520/130             ja                 ein                Transport
5 / Kgs 63/725/130           nein              ein                Gelände
6 / Kgs 63/725/130           nein              ein                Gelände
7 / Gg 24/660/300               ja               zwei               Transport
8 / Gg 24/660/300               ja               zwei               Transport
9 / Gg 24/800/300            nein             zwei               Gelände
10 / Gg 24/800/300          nein             zwei               Gelände
11 Kgs 73/800/300          nein             zwei               Gelände
12 Kgs 73/800/152          nein              ein                Gelände


Jagdtiger
Die beiden ersten Modelle des Jagdtigers (Sd.Kfz.186) wurden im Februar 1944 gefertigt und standen im April für Erprobungen zur Verfügung. Eines hatte ein von Porsche konstruiertes Laufwerk (Porsche-Laufwerk) und das andere eines von Henschel (Henschel-Laufwerk). Das letzt genannte Laufwerk war eine geringfügige Modifikation des beim Tiger II verwendeten.
Das von Porsche entworfene vereinfachte Laufwerk für den Jagdtiger ist erkennbar an den acht sichtbaren Laufradscheiben, während das von Henschel neun zeigt.
Diese Fahrzeuge wurden mit der zu dieser Zeit üblichen Geländekette Gg 24/800/300 [L3, S.149] des Tigers II ausgerüstet.
Verwendet wurde die Kette neuer Art mit profilierten Zwischengliedern [L3, S.150].
Bei den Fahrversuchen wurde festgestellt, dass Henschel-Kette und Porsche-Laufwerk nicht harmonierten. Deshalb wurden zur Beseitigung dieses Fehlers zunächst die inneren Führungszähne der Henschel-Kette entfernt. Weiter experimentiert wurde danach mit verschiedenen Kettenkränzen, ohne das Problem endgültig zu lösen. Daraufhin wurde auf eines dieser Fahrzeuge (Fahrgestell 305003) die Kette Kgs 64/640/130 des Elefant aufgezogen [L3, S.152/L13, S.10ff.].
Diese Kombination wurde aber nur im Juni 1944 für Versuchsfahrten verwendet und hat sich ebenfalls nicht bewährt.
Da die Henschel-Ketten für den Porsche-Jagdtiger verbesserte Gefechtseigenschaften (Bodendruck etc.) ergaben, wurden die Leiträder geändert, wodurch die Porsche-Fahrzeuge dann tatsächlich mit der Gg 24/800/300 fuhren. Fotos zeigen im März 1945 vernichtete Porsche-Jagdtiger mit genau
dieser Kette. Nachdem die Geländekette Kgs 73/800/300 des Tigers II in ausreichender Menge zur Verfügung stand, wurde sie ab September
1944 beim Henschel-Jagdtiger verwendet [L3, S.162], dessen Produktion in diesem Monat anlief. Daher ist es auszuschließen,
dass die Geländekette Gg 24/800/300 (außer beim o.g. Henschel-Versuchs-Jagdtiger) noch verwendet worden ist. Die erste Front-Einheit, die mit dem Henschel-Jagdtiger ausgerüstet wurde, hatte dann auch tatsächlich die Kgs 73/800/300 als Geländekette aufgezogen. [L3, S.174].
Eine Bedarfsmeldung der s.Pz.Jg.Abt. 653 vom 15. April 1945 forderte entsprechend den obigen Aussagen auch unterschiedliche Gleisketten für Jagdtiger mit Porsche- und Henschel-Laufwerk als Ersatzbeschaffung an [L3, S.181].
Es ist daher als gesichert anzusehen, dass die Geländekette Kgs 73/800/300 nicht auf dem Porsche-Jagdtiger verwendet worden ist.
Als Verladeketten erhielten die Porsche-Jagdtiger die Gg 24/660/300 älterer Art mit flachem Zwischenglied [L3, S.167] und die Henschel-Jagdtiger trugen die Verladekette neuer Art mit dem profilierten Zwischenglied [L3, S.187].

verwendete Ketten am Jagdtiger (Porsche-Laufwerk), Sd.Kfz.186:
   1944                                        1945
      01  02  03  04  05  06  07  08  09  10  11  12  01  02  03  04  05
3                                       1 / u*
7          (1)   ...                       (2)  (3) (4)   ...
10         1    ...                         2    3    4    ...
* Fahrzeug erhielt die Ketten Nr. 7 und 10

verwendete Ketten am Jagdtiger (Henschel-Laufwerk), Sd.Kfz.186:
  1944                                         1945
     01  02  03  04  05  06  07  08  09  10  11  12  01  02  03  04  05
8                                                        (4)  (9) (6)(20)(10)(13)(3)  (7) (1)*
10        1    ...                                      /
11                                                       4     9    6  20  10   13   3     7   1*
* möglicherweise fertiggestellt, möglich auch 4 Stück
Legende:
Zahl Produktion und Ausstattung; in Klammern: dieselben Fahrzeuge mit Verladeketten
u Umrüstung
... weitere Verwendung in der Folge
/ danach keine weitere Verwendung

Literatur:
L1 Spielberger: "Der Panzer-Kampfwagen Panther und seine Abarten", ISBN 3-87943-527-8
L2 Spielberger: "Der Panzer-Kampfwagen Tiger und seine Abarten", ISBN 3-87943-456-5
L3 Spielberger/Doyle/Jentz: "Schwere Jagdpanzer", ISBN 3-613-01517-X
L4 Jentz/Doyle/Sarson: "Kingtiger", ISBN 185532282X
L5 Kleine/Kühn: "Tiger", ISBN 3-87943-414-X
L6 Barr/Hart: "Panzer", Neuer Kaiser Verlag 1999
L7 Forty: "Die deutsche Panzerwaffe im zweiten Weltkrieg", ISBN 3-8289-5327-1
L8 Ford: "Tiger-Panzer", Karl Müller Verlag 1998
L9 Koch: "Laufwerke und Ketten deutscher Kampfpanzer 1935-45", ISBN 3-7909-0629-8
L10 Scheibert: "Die Tiger-Familie", ISBN 3-7909-0666-2
L11 Culver: "Tiger in action", ISBN 0-89747-230-6
L12 Fleischer: "Tiger in der Truppe", ISBN 3-7909-0637-9
L13 Devey: "Jagdtiger", ISBN 3-7909-0722-7
L14 Schneider: "Tiger im Kampf I", ISBN 3-935107-01-3
L15 Schneider: "Tiger im Kampf II", ISBN 3-935107-02-1
L16 Scheibert (Red.): "Panzerkampfwagen Maus und andere deutsche Panzerprojekte",
Waffenarsenal Highlight Band 3, ISBN 3-7909-0098-2


Source;

Die Sohlen der Tiger
Versuch einer Katalogisierung der Gleisketten für die Tiger-Panzer

Maybe this contains some answers to your questions?
4  War & Conflicts Discussions / World War II: Axis Equipment / Re: Info requested on JagdTigers! on: 15 January 2009, 21:21:04
As noted ; "I can't find a reliable source".

It doesn't make sence to qoute sources you think you can't rely up, does it?

I remember, though, there was a good article in one issue of the Waffen Revue which i, unlucky enough, deedn't keep for al those years.

Most information is in pranks, which means you need more information to come up with a conformation.

Once I find a reliable source and conformation of this information I have no trouble in qouting this source.

As you might have noticed, this little piece of proza is full of contradictions.

Just maybe you can confirm or reject any of this information?

As for me, I never take the information presented by a single source for granted.

An indepth study takes time and can't be answered in a weekend.

The end of sPzJg.Abt 653; http://www.thirdreichruins.com/spjabt653.htm
5  War & Conflicts Discussions / World War II: Axis Equipment / Re: Info requested on JagdTigers! on: 15 January 2009, 01:21:45
Intriging question.

I can't find a reliable source...

"The 512th schwere Panzerjaeger Abteilung (sPz.Jg.Abt.) was formed in late January 1945 at Sennelager, north of Paderborn. It was one of only two Abteilungen (the other being the 653rd) to be equipped with Jagdtigers.

On March 7th, 1945, the US Army took the bridge at Remagen intact. Also it collapsed 10 days later, the US forces now had a bridgehead on the east bank of the Rhine. On March 14th, 2nd Company of the 512th started traveling south (via rail), eventually reaching the Lauschied woods southeast of Eitorf on March 20th, 1945 (movement was very slow and only during the darkness). Three Jagdtigers were produced in March 1945 by Nibelungen Werk and had the following chassis numbers: 305075, 305076 and 305077. These three were delivered to schwere Panzer-Abteilung 512 with 1 being transported on 14 March and 2 transported on 26 March.

On March 24th, elements of the 512th Abteilung, together with the 506th schwere Panzerabteilung and 654th schwere Jagdpanzerabteilung formed Panzergruppe Hudel and attacked between Eitorf and Siegburg towards the southwest, with the intention to destroy the US bridgehead.

11 Jagdtigers (P) were delivered during August to October, 1944. Most of them (305006-305012) were issued to sPz.Jg.Abt.653 while the rest to test and training units. In addition, 6 Jagdtigers (H) (305013-305018) were delivered to the Abt.653 in October 1944. None of these Jagdtigers were lost before 1945.

Some Jagdtigers from the 653rd Hvy Pz.Jgt.Bn fought against the French 5e Division Blindee at a place called Klingenberg in Germany on 5.April 1945. There was very heavy fighting in the town of Klingenberg with the 5th French Tank Division. One Jagdtiger was destroyed on 5 April 1945 and on the same day in the afternoon a second Jagdtiger was blown up due to mechanical problems."

I can't confirm this.

Should we believe this report there were Jagdtigers delivered in March 1945.

I'm in the impression that the first vehicle's had the Porsch suspension, up to number 305012.
It seems these vehicle where delivered with Zimmerit anti-magnetic mine paste with the exception of 205012.
As noted most were delivered to SPzJg.Abt.653, the rest of these vehicles where used in proving grounds of which the vehicle of the Bovington Tank Museum is a fine example.

As to the 88mm version there is a rapport that this gun was fitted because the 128 Pak 44 could not be delivered in time.
Then it seems they didn't have the correct gun-sights so this conversion was abandoned.

As for SdKfz 185, wasn't there a tiger "berg-panzer" designated with the same number?

As for production numbers;

February 1944 - 2 - #305001-305002
July 1944 - 3 - #305003-305005
August 1944 - 3 - #305006-305008
September 1944 - 8 - #305009-305016
October 1944 - 9 - #305017-305025
November 1944 - 6 - #305026-305031
December 1944 - 20 - #305032-305051
January 1945 - 10 - #305052-305061
February 1945 - 13 - #305062-305074
March 1945 - 3 - #305075-305077
April 1945 - 7 - #305078-305084
May1945 - 4 - #305085-305088

again; no conformation about actual combat readines.

I also found a rapport that after februari no Jagdtigers were delivered.
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The end of the sPzJg.Abt 512 to US 99th infantry division.

"The division now set its sights northwest on Iserlohn, largest Ruhr city in the 99th's path. When 7th Armd. right-hooked the middle of Field Marshal Model's Army Group B, the Battle Babies moved on as fast as they could march.

By April 13, PW counts doubled; the Nazi cave-in was under way. More than 1200 PWs were taken that day followed by a 2315 count on Saturday, 9043 more Sunday and a staggering total of 23,884 on Monday. Overwhelming loads of Krauts, many driving their own vehicles, including horse drawn carts, converged on the PW field at Sundwig, outside Iserlohn.

In four days, the division had corraled and processed 36,453 Germans. Monday's catch included three lieutenant generals, eight major generals and a land-locked rear admiral. The famed 130th Panzer Lehr Div., credited with the finest soldiers, equipment and highest morale of any unit in the pocket, surrendered intact to the 393rd. The roundup also included the 22nd AA Div. Luftwaffe), the 338th Volksgrenadier Div. and the 3rd Panzer Grenadier Div., an old enemy from the breakthrough days.

Iserlohn gave up at noon, April 16, when a battery of 128mm "Jagdtiger" self-propelled guns surrendered to Lt. Col. Robert L. Kriz, 2nd Bn. CO, 394th. Unlike other last-ditch artillery units, the "Jagdtigers" still had plenty of ammunition left."
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I know, it's not really an answer to your question.

Just my two cents.....
6  Welcome To The War & Tactics Forum / About The WaT Forum: Rules, Updates, News / Re: What would YOU like to see/do/read at WaT? on: 12 January 2009, 23:33:52
Well, there are a lot of historic facts which are surprising once you get to notice its full impact on history.

This website seems to want conformation of facts you publice which makes you to publice things which are already publiced on other websites.

In the case of the second world war there are 3 "official" histories publicated.

The best known is the American version which is a writen history and actually thaught to our children.
The second is the german version which is nothing more than a publication of the diary of the german high command.
The third is the Russian version, this contains more pictures then text which is not surprising once you know that at the date of publication a large amount of the russian population couldn't read.

So, to combine these different views it takes original documents from different sources which are usually not available on the internet.
Since these documents are not available for all they can not be used in discussions on this forum.

Which means you will always fall back on the available information which is publicated, ie the american version of the history of the second world war.
There is little room for your own interpretation of known facts.

A special event for Herr Hauptman; http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/19thcentury/articles/fenian.aspx
7  War & Conflicts Discussions / Barbarossa / Blitz of Operation Barbarossa on: 11 January 2009, 00:01:42
When talking about planning  a campaign as the Germans did it's good to consider the treu nature of Blitzkrieg.

http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/wwii/articles/strategyofblitzkrieg.aspx
8  Military Hardware, Gear and Equipment / Ground Equipment / Re: Grenadier - Fusilier - Jäger on: 4 January 2009, 17:28:44
Another interesting site...

In plain English this one...

http://www.dererstezug.com/
9  Wargaming / Scenarios: Designing - Research & discussions / Re: Red or Black lines? on: 2 January 2009, 19:10:44
The command range of a HQ unit depends on its experience, its COMMAND leadership ability, and whether there is a line of sight between the HQ unit and its subordinate unit.

CMBO Manual, Command & Control, page 90.
10  War & Conflicts Discussions / Abteilung (Battalion) / Re: Schwere Panzer Abteilungen on: 2 January 2009, 09:58:58
Strength; mobilizing

"Nobody stands in front of a moving van".

Flaw; speed

"No Tiger is going to outrun a T34 or sherman".
11  War & Conflicts Discussions / Abteilung (Battalion) / Re: Schwere Panzer Abteilungen on: 2 January 2009, 00:02:38
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzev1mpx/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/cbt_effectiveness_of_german_heavy_tank_battalions.pdf
12  War & Conflicts Discussions / Wars & Conflicts: Modelling, Miniatures, Postal Stamps, Music, Patches, Money / Re: Lego terrorist threatens democracy / Religious leaders slam 'Toy Taliban' on: 1 January 2009, 16:54:31
http://www.brickmania.com/store_pages/WW2kits.html
13  Military Hardware, Gear and Equipment / Ground Equipment / Re: Grenadier - Fusilier - Jäger on: 1 January 2009, 15:50:42
Considering that the german language is not a problem......

This website is interresting enough to go through although it is known to contain faults.

http://www.lexikonderwehrmacht.de/

As for the Welle (waves) Draft system.

http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Zusatz/Heer/Gliederung.htm
14  Military Hardware, Gear and Equipment / Ground Equipment / Re: Grenadier - Fusilier - Jäger on: 1 January 2009, 15:32:56
As I already stated in PM; most of the information provided are originally in either German or Dutch language.

Some of the information provided is translated from German documentary on personal account.

For Kriegstarkenachweisungen, this seems a nice website to me although i can not confirm all information provided.

http://www.wwiidaybyday.com/kstn/kstnmain.htm

As stated in the listing above the following documents are used;

Stab eines Infanteriebataillons (n.A.), Nr 111n, datum 01.12.943
Schutzenkompanie (n.A.), Nr 131n, datum 01.05.44
Schwere Kompanie eines Infanteriebataillons (n.A.), Nr 151n, datum 01.05.44
15  Military Hardware, Gear and Equipment / Ground Equipment / Re: Grenadier - Fusilier on: 1 January 2009, 02:46:38
Please be carefull with listings of OOB.

They only give you information about "what should have been" and certainly not of "what the reality was".

Websites like Feldgrau are hardly relyable sources of information.

What should have been; compleet listing.....

German Grenadier Battalion, June 1944

Numbers in parenthesis indicate number of personnel assigned to role, number of unallocated weapons or number of sub-units in detachment.

Battalion Headquarters
Unit                        Rank   Weapon   Vehicle
            
Battalion Commander   Officer   MP40, pistol   Horse
Adjutant                         Officer   MP40, pistol   Horse
Ordnance Officer   Officer   MP40, pistol   
Medical Officer   Officer   Pistol   
Message Leader   NCO   MP40   
Combat Artist   NCO   Rifle   
Medic                        NCO   Pistol   Bicycle
Messenger (2)   Private   Rifle   
Messenger (2)   Private   Rifle   Bicycle
Messenger (2)   Private   Rifle   Horse
Messenger (2)   Private   Rifle   Motorcycle
Horse holder   Private   Rifle   
Driver                        Private   Rifle   Light field car

Signals Platoon
Unit                         Rank   Weapon   Vehicle
            
Platoon Commander   NCO   MP40, pistol   
Horse Leader   Private   Rifle   Horse, cart & trailer
            
Cable Section           
            
Section Leader   NCO   MP40   
Telephonist (3)   Private   Rifle   
Horse leader   Private   Rifle   Horse, cart & trailer
            
Cable Section           
            
Telephonist (2)   Private   MP40   
Telephonist (6)   Private   Rifle   
Horse leader   Private   Rifle   Horse, cart & trailer
            
Pack Radio Section           
            
Section Leader   NCO   MP40   
Signaller (3)   Private   MP40   
Signaller (4)   Private   Rifle   
Horse leader   Private   Rifle   Horse, cart & trailer

Battalion Train
Unit                         Rank   Weapon   Vehicle
            
Quartermaster   Civil Servant Pistol   Bicycle
Weapons Officer   Civil Servant Pistol   Bicycle
Train Leader   NCO   MP40   Horse
Battalion Clerk   NCO   Pistol   
Field Cook                        NCO   Rifle   
Equipment Leader   NCO   Rifle   
Pay Clerk        NCO   Rifle   
Smith                        NCO   Rifle   Bicycle
Clerk                        Private   Rifle, MG34/42   
Gunsmith (2)   Private   Rifle   
Blacksmith                        Private   Rifle   
Field Cook                        Private   Rifle   
Saddler                        Private   Rifle   
Shoemaker   Private   Rifle   
Tailor                        Private   Rifle   
Position maker (?)   Private   Rifle   
Wagon leader (2)   Private   Rifle   
Wagon driver (12)   Private   Rifle   Horse (2), wagon
Assistant driver (4)   Private   Rifle

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   

Grenadier Company(3)

Company Headquarters

Unit                                             Rank   Weapon   Vehicle
            
Company Commander     Officer   MP40, pistol   Horse
Company Troop Leader   NCO   MP40   
Combat Vehicle Leader   NCO   MP40   
Medic                                              NCO   Pistol   Bicycle
Messenger                         Private   Rifle   Bicycle
Messenger (2)                        Private   Rifle   
Signaller (4)                        Private   Rifle   
Horse leader *                        Private   Rifle   Horse, cart & trailer

Notes
 * served as 'Groom' for Officer's horse

Heavy Machine Gun Section
Unit                        Rank   Weapon   Vehicle
            
Section Leader   NCO   MP40   
Messenger    Private   Rifle   
Gunsmith                        Private   Rifle   
Wagon driver   Private   Rifle   Horse (2), wagon
            
HMG Squad (2) each           
            
Squad Leader   NCO   MP40   
Machine Gunner   Private   Pistol, MG34/42   
Assistant Gunner   Private   Pistol   
Rifleman (3)   Private   Rifle   
Horse leader   Private   Rifle   Horse, cart & trailer

Rifle Platoon (3), each
Unit                        Rank   Weapon   Vehicle
            
Platoon HQ           
            
Platoon Commander    * see note   MP40, pistol   
Messenger (2)   Private   Rifle   
Stretcher Bearer   Private   Pistol   
Wagon driver   Private   Rifle   Horse (2), wagon &  trailer
Horse leader   Private   Rifle   Horse, cart & trailer
            
Rifle Squad (3) each           
            
Squad Leader   NCO   MP40   
Rifleman (5)   Private   Rifle   
Rifleman   Private   MP40   
Machine Gunner   Private   Pistol, MG34/42   
Assistant Gunner   Private   Rifle
   
Notes
* 1st Platoon commanded by Officer, 2nd and 3rd Platoons each commanded by NCO
Platoon Weapons;
single MG34/42 light machine gun carried in reserve

Company Train
Unit                        Rank   Weapon   Vehicle
            
Train Leader         Hautpfeldwebel   Pistol   Bicycle
Equipment NCO   NCO   MP40   
Field Cook   NCO   Rifle   
Pay Clerk   NCO   Rifle   
Company Clerk   Private   Rifle, MG34/42   
Gunsmith                        Private   Rifle   
Shoemaker   Private   Rifle   
Tailor                        Private   Rifle   
Field Cook                        Private   Rifle   Horse (4), wagon & trailer
Wagon driver   Private   Rifle   Horse (2), wagon & trailer
Wagon driver (3)   Private   Rifle   Horse (2), wagon

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Heavy Company

Company Headquarters
Unit                         Rank   Weapon   Vehicle
            
Company Commander   Officer   MP40, pistol   Horse
Company Troop Leader NCO   MP40   
Medic                        NCO   Pistol   Bicycle
Messenger                        Private   Rifle   Motorcycle
Messenger (2)   Private   Rifle   Horse
Signals Leader   NCO   Rifle   
Signaller (3)   Private   Rifle   
Telephone Leader   NCO   MP40   
Assistant Leader   Private   MP40   
Telephonist (6)   Private   Rifle   
Horse leader (2)   Private   Rifle   Horse, cart & trailer

Heavy Machine Gun Platoon
Unit                        Rank   Weapon   Vehicle
            
Platoon HQ           
            
Platoon Commander   Officer   MP40, pistol   Horse
Messenger (3)   Private   Rifle   
Range Taker   Private   Pistol   
Gunsmith                        Private   Rifle   
Stretcher Bearer   Private   Pistol   
Horse holder *   Private   Rifle   
Wagon driver (2)   Private   Rifle   Horse (2), wagon
            
HMG Section (3) each           
            
Section Leader   NCO   MP40   
            
HMG Squad (2) each           
            
Squad Leader   NCO   MP40   
Machine Gunner   Private   Pistol, MG34/42   
Assistant Gunner   Private   Pistol   
Rifleman (3)   Private   Rifle   
Horse leader   Private   Rifle   Horse, cart & trailer

Notes
 * served as 'Groom' for Officer's horse

8cm Mortar Platoon
Unit                        Rank   Weapon   Vehicle
            
Platoon HQ           
            
Platoon Commander   NCO   MP40, pistol   Horse
Messenger (3)   Private   Rifle   
Signaller (6)   Private   Rifle   
Gunsmith   Private   Rifle   
Stretcher Bearer   Private   Pistol   
            
Mortar Section (3) each           
            
Section Leader   NCO   MP40   
Direction Finder   NCO   Pistol   
Position Leader   NCO   MP40   
Wagon driver   Private   Rifle   Horse (2), wagon
            
Mortar Squad (2) each           
            
Mortar Gunner   Private   Pistol, 8cm mortar   
Assistant Gunner (2)   Private   Pistol   
Rifleman (2)   Private   Rifle   
Horse leader (2)   Private   Rifle   Horse, cart & trailer

12cm Mortar Platoon (motorised)
Unit                        Rank   Weapon   Vehicle
            
Platoon HQ           
            
Platoon Commander   Officer   MP40, pistol   
Direction Finder I   NCO   Pistol   
Position Leader   NCO   MP40   
Direction Finder II   Private   Rifle   
Range Finder   Private   Pistol   
Messenger     Private   Rifle   
Messenger (2)   Private   Rifle   Motorcycle
Signaller (3)   Private   Rifle   
Gunsmith                        Private   Rifle   
Driver                        Private   Rifle   Light field car
Driver                        Private   Rifle   Light truck
Telephone Leader   NCO   MP40   
Telephonist (3)   Private   Rifle   
Driver                        Private   Rifle   RSO *
            
Mortar Squad (4) each           
            
Squad Leader   NCO   MP40   
Mortar Gunner   Private   Rifle, 12cm mortar   
Rifleman (4)   Private   Rifle **   
Driver                        Private   Rifle   RSO *

Notes
 * RSO - Raupenschlepper Ost (a tracked heavy lorry)
** one riflemen in the 1st and 3rd Squad armed with pistol and light machine gun instead of rifle

Company Train
Unit                         Rank   Weapon   Vehicle
            
Train Leader        Hautpfeldwebel   Pistol   Horse
Weapons NCO (Armourer) NCO   Pistol   
Equipment NCO   NCO   MP40   
Smith                        NCO   Pistol   Bicycle
Fodder Master   NCO   MP40   Horse
Field Cook                        NCO   Rifle   
Pay Clerk                        NCO   Rifle   
Company Clerk   Private   Rifle, MG34/42   
Blacksmith                        Private   Rifle   
Saddler                        Private   Rifle   
Field Cook          Private   Rifle   Horse (4), wagon & trailer
Supply                        Private   Pistol   
Wagon driver (5)   Private   Rifle   Horse (2), wagon



Used sources;

kriegsstarkenachweisung

Nr 111n - 1/12/43
Nr 131n - 1/5/44
Nr 151n - 1/5/44


Hmmm, it looked nice when i worked on it.
Once placed the picture becomes somewhat blurred.......
16  Military Hardware, Gear and Equipment / Ground Equipment / Re: Grenadier - Fusilier on: 1 January 2009, 02:22:29
Without getting into details.......

Jäger-units were light infantry formation of the 12 Welle (draft).

These units were intended for area's which were neither suitable for infantry formation nor for specialysed mountain formations.

The main difference was that these formations only contained 2 regiments of 3 batallions each.
Support weapon units were also smaller since they only had to support 2 regiments.

(information provided is my own interpetrations of facts, i don't have the time to check for falts so human error is possible)
17  Military Hardware, Gear and Equipment / Ground Equipment / Re: Grenadier - Fusilier on: 31 December 2008, 13:39:48
One thing is for sure,

The German army fought for its own survival after the debacle of Stalingrad.
This is the main reason why Hitler needed a new "Elite".

The tradition of the Army of the Kaiser were past over to the Reichsheer .
This was accomplished by turning over the traditions of the old regiments of the army of the Kaiser to individual companies of the Reichsheer.
These companies were exceptionally trained in staff methods and would form the cadre of the later regiments of the Wehrmacht.

As for practical purposes, the Grenadier companies were all infantry while the fusilier companies, being the infantry divisions reconnaissance assets were all bicycle mounted.
As the war progressed these TO&E become more blurred as Grenadier companies got bicycles to.

One of the best known stories is a German soldier, nowadays known as Germany's Rambo.
He fired a few shots to disappear, leaving a bicycle tire trail, in the snow of the Ardennes.

It doesn't really make a difference for a game of CM.
The soldiers had to get of their bikes to fight anyway.

It would be a nice addition though.
A scenario of Kampfgruppe Meyer on june the 6 would become possible.

Then again, does anyone play CMBO anymore?

(information provided is my own interpetrations of facts, i don't have the time to check for falts so human error is possible)
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