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Author Topic: DEC 11, 2009: Long Awaited A 400M Maiden Flight  (Read 3871 times)
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« on: 11 December 2009, 22:44:28 »
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Yes, finally it became airborne, with only 1.5 yrs delay:

Today, from Sevilla and to Sevilla, the A 400M did it´s long awaited maiden flight of 3 hrs 47 min. I have seen the rol out and it was impressive, but it did not give the whole idea, I must say, I am impressed! This a/c will make history as a mid hauler!

Here some exclousive footage of the first flight:

Exclusive video: A400M First Flight






 Brede lach







Just joking, real Maiden Flight Vid and gallery here:  

http://www.airbusmilitary.com/


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Check it out, just the 10.000+ hp Turboprop powerplants are really impressive, also the new 8 bladed props have thier own beauty:

Airbus A400M TP400-D6 Engine Test

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« Reply #1 on: 12 December 2009, 16:35:18 »
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Looks like a C-130 on steroids!
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« Reply #2 on: 12 December 2009, 20:09:10 »
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Looks like a C-130 on steroids!

...and it is, indeed: Almost double range (6600 km), double loadout, half consumption, and more versatile (it´s own generic AA, hauler/tanker config selectable within 12 hours, both Vne and Stall speed are higher/lower respectively), wide enough to carry anything below tanks, shorter TO and landing distance, modern times I´d say. Specs in detail:

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General characteristics

    * Crew: 3 or 4 (2 pilots, 3rd optional, 1 loadmaster)
    * Capacity: 37,000 kg (82,000 lb)
          o 116 fully equipped troops / paratroops,
          o up to 66 stretchers accompanied by 25 medical personnel
    * Length: 45.1 m (148 ft 0 in)
    * Wingspan: 42.4 m (139 ft 1 in)
    * Height: 14.7 m (48 ft 3 in)
    * Empty weight: 69,853 kg (154,000 lb)
    * Max takeoff weight: 141,000 kg (310,852 lb)
    * Max. Landing Weight: 114 tonnes (251,000 lb)
    * Total Internal Fuel: 50.5 tonnes (111,333 lb)
    * Powerplant: 4 × Europrop TP400-D6[40] turboprop, 8,250 kW (11,060 hp) each
    * Propellers: 8-bladed, 5.3 m (17 ft 5 in) diameter

Performance

    * Cruising speed: 780 km/h (480 mph; 420 kn) (Mach 0.68 - 0.72)
    * Initial Cruise Altitude: at MTOW: 9,000 m (29,000 ft)
    * Range: 3,298 km (2,049 mi; 1,781 nmi) at max payload (long range cruise speed; reserves as per MIL-C-5011A)
          o Range at 30-tonne payload: 4,540 km (2,450 nmi)
          o Range at 20-tonne payload: 6,390 km (3,450 nmi)
    * Ferry range: 8,710 km (5,412 mi; 4,703 nmi)
    * Service ceiling: 11,300 m (37,073 ft)
    * Maximum Operating Altitude: 12,000 m (40,000 ft)
    * Tactical Takeoff Distance: 980 m (3,215 ft) (aircraft weight 100 tonnes, soft field, ISA, sea level)
    * Tactical Landing Distance: 770 m (2,526 ft) (as above)
    * Turning Radius (Ground): 28.6 m



The problem is that at the occurence of the maiden flight the defense ministers of the 7 countries involved joined and decided that in time of crisis they will/can not pay the 25% extra that the project requires for their contracts, so they are contemplating seriously renouncing the 800 pcs ordered... I just hope that seeing the beast in the air has changed their minds, transport is where we are desperately short, transport sells!

How short sighted of them: Since years we pay large sums to Ukrainia and Russia to float our stuff to Iraq and Afghanistan (as Europe only has the Transall/Herky combo, and the US C-141 Starlifters are all booked out), with horrible reults as far as maintenance/death toll goes (Yak 42, Turkey, one example: http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/jul2004/plne-j19.shtml), just seeing the photos of our soldiers crammed in w/o seats between beer barrels... gives you the creeps...

Why spend that money there if we have the plane and the technology, and even a market! for 25% overshoot of the offer (we all know how mil contracts go: The toilet I buy for 50 Euros in LeroyMerlin costs 250 if delivered to mil after all the comissions and bribes and studies made by friends have been paid - by us tax payers).

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« Reply #3 on: 29 December 2009, 22:23:28 »
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Rattler,

I am not going to post the new given specs (military technology) because you have them right here already Knipoog
Posted the interview with Mr Tentor at the KC-x topic Bedroefd

Below you find the interview give to military technology:

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A400 status report.
Rafael Tentor , vice president and head of the A400M program.

Opening a briefing by projecting and reassuring an optimistic image about the current status of the program.
After a turbulent and troubled period there is light at the end of the tunnel according to Tentor.
Negotiations with all customer countries are going well for a revised contract.
A new agreement is expected to be signed in december 2009.
Mr Tentor was not able to give more details about the new contract, besides a renewed timetable.
The new deal will almost certainly remain a single cumulative award covering both developement and production, but unlike the previous programme structure whereby development and manufacture were supposed to run in parallel there will be a stepped scheme with the two phases well seperated from eachother in a time sequence.
On the technical site, the first flyable version of the software for the engines FADEC electronic control system( version 1) was delivered at the end of june 2009 to the "iron bird "with greatly improved quality.
Version 2 was released on 25 august correcting most of the identified issues and the final version started testing end of september.
EASA approval of the FADEC software is being pursued with a first succesfull edit on 31 july and a second one sceduled in octobre.
The europrop international TP 400-D6 engine itself has accumulated 3.150hrs of testrun, and first clearance has been achieved in august leading to type certification being targeted for early next year.
The first aircraft (MSN-1) was receiving its engines and Ratier-Figeac FH386 8 bladed propellors at the time of the briefing with the process being completed a few days afterwards on 29th september (first protype show to public in july 2008 had empty enginenacelles with non functional prop models)
A number of development improvements have also been embodied: outdoor tests  for pressuration and fuel system tests have been completed.
All aircraftsystemes have been tested and are ready for first flight while the software that is needed is still being loaded.
The C130 flying testbed has performed 16 flights so far for a total of 48 flying hours.
The full flightenvelope has been opened without restrictions, max engine output has been demonstrated both a take-off and in flight, and no critical issues preventing MSN-1 first flight have been identified.
The FTB will achieve two more flights beforeflight test activties are being terminated.
In the mean time the MSN5000 structural static test item completed all limit loads testing in june and the ultimate loadtesting is now starting.
These developments project a high degree of confidence that MSN-1 will start static engine ground run, low speed and than high speed taxi tests in november with the flyable FADEC software, and will fly late this year or in early 2010.
Aircraft MSN-2 will complete all structural upgrade and system installation as well as system testing by the end of 2009 and will fly in the first quarter of 2010.
Complete assembly of MSN-3 started mid september and it is sceduled to fly before summer 2010.
The subsequent planes will be completed in aconfiguration progressively closer to the final military standard.MSN-7 will be the first aircraft delivered to a customer while MSN-5  and MSN 6 will be brought to the standard configuration and delivered at a later date.
The eventual status of MSN-1 to MSN-4 is not completely clear at this stage, and they might not become operational platforms.
The revised contract is expected to to enshrine a commitment for deliveries  to start 3 years after the initial flight.
(late 2012 or 2013)
The French airforce will be the first recpient.
An interesting aspect of Tentors briefing was the very detailed set of projected specifications in terms of payload/range combinations ,maximum allowance TO weight under different altitudes/temperature conditions.
(post thes items seperately)
When asked mr Tentor confirmed these data were actual ones and no proposed ones.
This is very good news  because it indicates that the revised contract  will accept the M400M to be delivered much later and at a higher cost than foreseen in the original contract.
However there will be no significant compromises as regards performance beyond some aspects of the avionics.Mr Tentor went to a considerable length to to stress that the excessive empty weight issue which a few months agowas known to be a serious problem, is now "under control".

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« Reply #4 on: 30 December 2009, 00:10:28 »
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Stoffel, great you used the search engine.. Smiley

No, clear vision decision, much appreciated Smiley

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