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Question: Check out the proposal for a new forum structure and comment (see first post, multiple votes)
I like the new structure proposal
I like the basic idea, but ... (see my comment)
The new structure is missing ... (see my comment)
I don´t like the new structure proposal
We have too many boards currently
I am fine with what we have
I am fine with whatever you guys come up with
Looks like it will be easier to find/post stuff
Looks it might be more complicated to find/post stuff
Having the off-topic boards up first is a great idea
Military boards should come first, off-topic at the bottom
I have no clue what this poll is about
I have a different (better) idea
I don´t answer polls, go away!

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« on: 11 May 2010, 05:10:25 »
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LINK TO THE TEST FORUM FIXED!

          A new forum structure proposal at: http://todos-contra-matias.net/forum/index.php, take a look and comment, please! Your input (multiple answers possible) is much appreciated!

          As you probably have realized, there was a bit of a discussion ongoing lately between the more active members about the way our forum is structured, some find it too complicated and the structure a bit confusing, some points mentioned were:

          - Currently we have too many boards and subboards (315 in total), stuff is hard to find, and it is not always clear where to post
          - Information on certain stuff (e.g. WWII) is distributed all over the place instead of concentrated under one topic
          - The high turnover boards (almost all of them off-topic) are way too low on the categories list to attract new members

          Now, 13_th_redneck has come up with a radically new idea for a future highly streamlined WaT forum structure and set it up at our test forum. We staff have been tweaking it a bit with our input to make all our stuff fit and it is by no means completed the way it looks now, but it has reached a point where we now would like to hear you members out about what you think of the effort.

          Rednecks proposal:


          • ends the separation of archive and discussion
          • concentrates both facts and discussion under the same topic
          • reduces the number of categories from 10 to 6
          • reduces the number of boards from 315 to 33
          • has the high turnover (most read and replied) off topic stuff on top and before the serious "business" military discussion boards


          Please, take a look and comment, it is you members that will have to live with anything new coming up, so we really would like to hear how you feel about it.

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          « Reply #1 on: 12 May 2010, 19:14:22 »
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          I like the basic idea, but ... (see my comment)

          would the voter please write down his comments?
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          « Reply #2 on: 12 May 2010, 22:48:21 »
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          saw that as well, maybe it was a mental only comment? Smiley

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          « Reply #3 on: 12 May 2010, 23:00:58 »
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          I don't think it was me, but I am still not certain how the current "organised" data will be handled to me it seems odd to take information that is in an appropriate section and just dump it randomly into a general discussion section which is why I have been a big fan of maintaining the archive sections at the bottom of the forum and just condensing the sub-forums with 1 or 2 posts into a general section within each group to be expanded later if the need arose.

          But as with most things change is hard to visualise until it is in place and tried, so I am going to be ok with whatever is put in place.

          For the record I voted:
          - We have too many boards currently
          - I am fine with whatever you guys come up with
          - Looks like it will be easier to find/post stuff
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          « Reply #4 on: 12 May 2010, 23:57:08 »
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          Good idea to put a nme to the vote.

          I voted:

          - I like the new structure proposal
          - We have too many boards currently
          - Looks like it will be easier to find/post stuff
          - Having the off-topic boards up first is a great idea

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          « Reply #5 on: 13 May 2010, 01:38:49 »
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          I voted...

          - I like the new structure proposal
          - I am fine with whatever you guys come up with
          - I don´t answer polls, go away!

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          « Reply #6 on: 13 May 2010, 07:53:30 »
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          I am fine with any proposal

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          « Reply #7 on: 13 May 2010, 09:50:30 »
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          Okay, my vote:

          - I like the new structure proposal
          - We have too many boards currently
          - I am fine with whatever you guys come up with
          - Looks like it will be easier to find/post stuff
          - Having the off-topic boards up first is a great idea

          I haven't followed every bit, but I definitely feel the current forum is way to cluttered. The new one looks good and while I won#t be able to put much time into this, I still have a general suggestion:
          I think we should consider focussing our coverage - sure, it's nice to have topics about all things related to military stuff, but I bet that a) not everyone is interested in all military things in general (I, for one, don't care about contemporary warfare), b) we can't expect to cover everything properly anyway (that'd take a whole life and the next one as well!) and c) the quality of the information found is of greatly varying degrees because we either can't verify how accurate any information we took off the net is or the person in question just don't cares about the quality of his postings (e.g. rather one good picture of a vehicle instead of about everything he can find). I ignore the sources problem because that only helps if you actually have an idea what the article you jsut read is about in the first place.
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          « Reply #8 on: 13 May 2010, 11:45:17 »
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          Okay, my vote:

          - I like the new structure proposal
          - We have too many boards currently
          - I am fine with whatever you guys come up with
          - Looks like it will be easier to find/post stuff
          - Having the off-topic boards up first is a great idea

          I haven't followed every bit, but I definitely feel the current forum is way to cluttered. The new one looks good and while I won#t be able to put much time into this, I still have a general suggestion:
          I think we should consider focussing our coverage - sure, it's nice to have topics about all things related to military stuff, but I bet that a) not everyone is interested in all military things in general (I, for one, don't care about contemporary warfare), b) we can't expect to cover everything properly anyway (that'd take a whole life and the next one as well!) and c) the quality of the information found is of greatly varying degrees because we either can't verify how accurate any information we took off the net is or the person in question just don't cares about the quality of his postings (e.g. rather one good picture of a vehicle instead of about everything he can find). I ignore the sources problem because that only helps if you actually have an idea what the article you jsut read is about in the first place.


          (correct me if I get it wrong) when you're saying we should specialize in less subjects instead of trying to cover ALL wars and conflicts?
          (example: only 20th en 21st century subjects?)

          if so then I think that with the new lay-out people will find their preferred event/timeframe easier and their will be less 'almost empty' subboards.
          1000 posts divided over 10 subboards looks better then 1000 posts divided over 50 subboards.
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          « Reply #9 on: 13 May 2010, 12:47:23 »
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          (correct me if I get it wrong) when you're saying we should specialize in less subjects instead of trying to cover ALL wars and conflicts?
          (example: only 20th en 21st century subjects?)


          Correct - it's impossible to cover everything and at the same time to provide quality postings. And due to the sheer amount of material, we'd miss a lot of things anyway.

          if so then I think that with the new lay-out people will find their preferred event/timeframe easier and their will be less 'almost empty' subboards.
          1000 posts divided over 10 subboards looks better then 1000 posts divided over 50 subboards.


          People certainly will, but as I said before: quality over quantity. Even about my favorite era (WW2) I know little, because I specialized (which is the reasonable thing to do lest you waste time, energy and money). To cover absolutely everything properly (not just posting what might seem interesting at one point but proper coverage: tactics, leaders, important battles, maps, timelines, analyses, formations, wargear etc.) you'd need dozens of people with LOTS of time. I just don't think that is possible to realize - but that is just my personal opinion.
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          « Reply #10 on: 13 May 2010, 12:50:34 »
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          « Reply #11 on: 19 May 2010, 23:57:20 »
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          Has any thought been given to where the threshold would be to trigger a a new sub-forum (if indeed there are to be sub-forums based on posts)?

          I look at the likes of the > Forum > 2: War & Conflicts: discussions > War & Conflicts: 20th Century Discussions section and both WW2 and Vietnam have a reasonable number of posts (over 100) so wouldn't it make sense to keep them as sub-boards and condense the others into one "General" discussion?
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          « Reply #12 on: 20 May 2010, 08:19:24 »
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          Has any thought been given to where the threshold would be to trigger a a new sub-forum (if indeed there are to be sub-forums based on posts)?

          I look at the likes of the > Forum > 2: War & Conflicts: discussions > War & Conflicts: 20th Century Discussions section and both WW2 and Vietnam have a reasonable number of posts (over 100) so wouldn't it make sense to keep them as sub-boards and condense the others into one "General" discussion?



          As you can see here this is indeed the plan, e.g. WWII and Vietnaam would of cause have sub forums.

          Trigger would be from my POV when the topic list is getting too long or cluttered and it starts becoming hard to track/find stuff.

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